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Tuesday, May 24, 2011

So, Bibi, Let Me Get This Straight...

...All Mahmoud has to do is say 6 words and you will uproot hundreds of thousands of Jews?

Netanyahu's speech to the US Congress had a whole lot of good and a whole lot of bad mixed together.  It was אור וחשך משתמשים בערבוביא (light and darkness serving in a mixture - see Rashi on Bereishit 1:4).

YWN has the full text of the speech.

The good:

The peace agreements with Egypt and Jordan are vital. But they’re not enough. We must also find a way to forge a lasting peace with the Palestinians.
The bad:

Two years ago, I publicly committed to a solution of two states for two peoples: A Palestinian state alongside the Jewish state.

I am willing to make painful compromises to achieve this historic peace. As the leader of Israel, it is my responsibility to lead my people to peace.

This is not easy for me. I recognize that in a genuine peace, we will be required to give up parts of the Jewish homeland.
In the same breath where Netanyahu is about to say the best part of his speech (about it being the land of our forefathers), he claims that he's "required" to give up parts of it.  Not only is he not required to do so, but a genuine peace will not tolerate giving up our homeland.  Only by insisting that our homeland is ours - never to be given up - can we possibly have genuine peace.  You don't tempt the insatiable Arab appetite by showing weakness. 

The good:

In Judea and Samaria, the Jewish people are not foreign occupiers. We are not the British in India. We are not the Belgians in the Congo.

This is the land of our forefathers, the Land of Israel, to which Abraham brought the idea of one God, where David set out to confront Goliath, and where Isaiah saw a vision of eternal peace. No distortion of history can deny the four thousand year old bond, between the Jewish people and the Jewish land.
The bad:

But there is another truth: The Palestinians share this small land with us. We seek a peace in which they will be neither Israel’s subjects nor its citizens. They should enjoy a national life of dignity as a free, viable and independent people in their own state. They should enjoy a prosperous economy, where their creativity and initiative can flourish

On what basis do they deserve to live as an independent people?  Who are they and where did they come from?  Were they ever an independent people?  There was never any such people as "Palestinians" so why does Netanyahu insist on creating a state for them?

The good:

So why has peace not been achieved? Because so far, the Palestinians have been unwilling to accept a Palestinian state, if it meant accepting a Jewish state alongside it.

You see, our conflict has never been about the establishment of a Palestinian state. It has always been about the existence of the Jewish state. This is what this conflict is about. In 1947, the United Nations voted to partition the land into a Jewish state and an Arab state. The Jews said yes. The Palestinians said no. In recent years, the Palestinians twice refused generous offers by Israeli Prime Ministers, to establish a Palestinian state on virtually all the territory won by Israel in the Six Day War.

They were simply unwilling to end the conflict. And I regret to say this: They continue to educate their children to hate. They continue to name public squares after terrorists. And worst of all, they continue to perpetuate the fantasy that Israel will one day be flooded by the descendants of Palestinian refugees.
The bad:

My friends, this must come to an end. President Abbas must do what I have done. I stood before my people, and I told you it wasn’t easy for me, and I said… “I will accept a Palestinian state.” It is time for President Abbas to stand before his people and say… “I will accept a Jewish state.”

Those six words will change history. They will make clear to the Palestinians that this conflict must come to an end. That they are not building a state to continue the conflict with Israel, but to end it. They will convince the people of Israel that they have a true partner for peace. With such a partner, the people of Israel will be prepared to make a far reaching compromise. I will be prepared to make a far reaching compromise.
These last 2 paragraphs sound very good, but are really too naive.  It's a drop-in-the-bucket of a starting-point.  If President Abbas would accept a Jewish state, it will not change history.  It will not make it clear to the Palestinians that the confict should end.  Instead, it will be understood by the Palestinian people as a trick. 

And it will be way too easy.  The father who gives his teenage son the car keys after misbehaving badly for years just because the son recognizes him as his father is not good parenting.  A steady pattern of good behavior is the only chance at him getting the car keys.  A steady pattern of good behavior does not include making deals with the kid down the block who constantly pelts the family house with rotten eggs.  It certainly does not include occasionally throwing those eggs himself.

So, as I said, in some ways, I really liked Bibi's monumental speech.  But in others, I found it extremely dangerous.  אור וחשך משתמשים בערבוביא. 

Now, the one mitigating factor of all this is that it could be that he's just playing the game, knowing that even his far-reaching compromise is still too much for the Palestinians to accept.  (In fact, Nabil Shaath called the speech a "declaration of war".  Totally expected.  It happened 11 years ago too.  They now have an "excuse" to start violence.  Again.)  It could be that he's totally calling their bluff.

So, the verdict is still not yet out on Bibi and his role in the future of the Jewish people.


At Tue May 24, 05:43:00 PM 2011, Anonymous Berebi said...

We are lucky that the palestinians are so greedy that they will never be satisfied by anything that Israel offers them. This is because they are from the seed of Amalek. They are the worst of all the Yishmaelim. They will always want more and therefore there will never be any peace treaty with them. Ha-shem knew what he was doing when he placed them on our land.

At Tue May 24, 06:03:00 PM 2011, Blogger Devorah said...

Some people were saying Bibi's speech was a declaration of war against the US !

That's the scary part... if O'bammy thinks Israel isn't playing along as he wants them to... I think he promised his arab pals that he'd deliver Israel to them on a plate, and he wants to make sure he's being seen to be doing it. O'bammy is a very dangerous man.

At Tue May 24, 09:17:00 PM 2011, Anonymous Shiloh said...

The Torah of Moshe is explicit that if we don't get rid of the inhabitants when God gives us the land then God will do to us what we where supposed to do. So, we have 'our' PM now declaring to give up our homeland. He is caught between his masters who put him into power and his messianic ideas.

There is talk in parts of the Shomron that the gov't is going to 'evacuate' Amona and not give any financial help to them to get even with them for the last go round.

I can't trust much of anything the 'leaders' here say. There are too many things pointing to another pogram here. Don't kid yourself thinking these leaders here have the strength to stand up to the world in order to finally have peace and respect. So we will have to wait for another chance.

At Wed May 25, 02:24:00 AM 2011, Anonymous Green Thumb Gardening said...

It is strange that every sentence Netanyahu said was met with applause from members of Congress; apparently they are stupidly ignorant of the true meaning to the suffering of the Palestinian people under occupation.

At Wed May 25, 03:35:00 AM 2011, Anonymous Neshama said...

Yes Shiloh, I believe like you. Since we are not adamant in our (not occupation) stewardship of Eretz HaKodesh, Jews will be forced off G-d's Land and from their homes. Bibi is delivering a self-fulfilling prophecy. He doesnt realize what his words mean. Didn't the same happen to Begin? When he realized, it broke him.

At Wed May 25, 03:43:00 AM 2011, Anonymous Neshama said...

Oh, one more thing. Yaak, you are so keenly correct: a mixture of good and bad. I didn't like his speech. And there is a supposed "Answer to Obamma" in video form that is a real joke. What an historical blunder. I believe HaShem was waiting (?) for the Jews to stand up to the world with the Emes and they (Israel's leaders) blew it. To me, this does spell war.

Every time we miss "an opportunity" it pushes the Geulah away, and chv's brings greater turmoil.

At Wed May 25, 06:31:00 AM 2011, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bibi's got potential. He could do tshuva and be MBY.

I, for one, am praying that Bibi does tshuva.

At Wed May 25, 04:07:00 PM 2011, Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

The news is good. Do not fret. He is holding at the 33rd level right now, and he took a walk on Lag B'Omer through the National Mall in Washington DC surrounded by 33rd degree FreeMasonic monuments and inscriptions. So right now he is in a murky place spiritually. He needs to rise from where he is, and he needs spiritual guidance. Yea, he needs a Rav. It is his choice. For the final redemption, G-d willing, has begun, and there is nothing that he can do to stop it even if he wanted to.

Also keep in mind that he represents Israel (Yosef) not Yehudah. So even though he knows that the Pals. will never accept his generous offers because they are evil, he senses that he has a moral duty to offer 3.5 million stateless Arabs who live between the Med. and the Jordan River a chance to blow it for the umpteenth time. Only Yehudah would say that if you know that they are that evil, why would you make that offer in the first place?

At Wed May 25, 09:52:00 PM 2011, Anonymous Shiloh said...

Why does Bibi need a Rav? What, one cannot cleave to our Father alone? Via the Torah of Moshe? Where did Moshe tell us to do that? Oh how the Erev Rav love to control the destiny of us. What has changed (just the physical) since leaving Egypt. One cannot get "spiritual guidance" via an uncorrupted means, ie Tanach? Quite an amazing claim.

Bibi can't stop it, but actually he is speeding it up unawares, as opposed to the others who will hinder it as per the Baal Shem Tov.

So, you prefer that he further alienate himself from God and His Torah by following the traditions of men (Isaiah 29:13-14).

At Thu May 26, 09:18:00 AM 2011, Anonymous Horse Racing Megasite said...

Pres.obama focused the need for security measures that are able to curb this kind of terrorism and other threats to the security of Israel. It is a fundamental element, an important foundation of peace we seek and work. And we have to thank him for that, the efforts to move this peace for us and our neighbors, our region and I think we can say that it’s for the whole world.

At Thu May 26, 12:08:00 PM 2011, Anonymous Bob Miller said...

"Why does Bibi need a Rav?" - Shiloh

Because we all do! Even a Rav needs a Rav.

At Fri May 27, 01:22:00 AM 2011, Anonymous Shiloh said...

Mr Miller, we need God. Not the traditions of men that transgress the Torah of Moshe. You wonder why we are in such a mess today, look no further. Go back and read the Tanach.

At Fri May 27, 07:19:00 AM 2011, Blogger Noise Blockers and Other Remedies said...

It doesn't matter what he says. What matters is what we do. We must now come together as never before. There is no other way - strength in numbers. Ranks according to age, gender and profession - but together one army. That is how we will proceed during the next few weeks. We will continue to prepare ourselves for the upcoming battles that lay ahead, fortifying our minds, bodies and souls with complete EMUNA AND BITACHON. That is how we will present ourselves to Moshiach. We are One army. Ready to fight. Ready to accept Ol Malchut Shamayim. Ready to roll in the Geulah - Yashar El.


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