Wednesday, September 07, 2011

Klausenberger and Gerrer Rebbes Talk Geula

Rav Fish, in his latest update, quotes the Tzanzer magazine "Betzila Dimhemnuta" (Shofetim, 5771)with a conversation between the Klausenberger Rebbe Shlit"a and the Gerrer Rebbe Shlit"a.

Klausenberger Rebbe: In this period, we've seen many revolutions throughout the world, the earth is crumbling, the world is shaking.  [My honored father], ZY"A, said in the name of his father, the holy Rav of Rudnik, ZY"A, who said around 100 years ago during WWI that just like every man, the older it gets, the more unstable it gets.  Similarly, the world is already very old and is therefore unstable.  Today, we see this more in all matters - it boggles the mind.

Gerrer Rebbe: HKB"H runs the world.

KR:  We see today things that no one has ever seen.  Many events that used to take tens of years, happen today in a very short period - and this is with all matters.  It's unbelievable.

GR: "Not by might, nor by power, but by My spirit, saith the LORD of hosts."

KR:  "I the LORD will hasten it in its time"  When the time of Be'itah comes, Hashem will turn things about so it will be Ahishena, that the events will occur quickly.  We have to hope that we are already getting close to the Complete Redemption.

Also, the Klausenberger Rebbe said in the Kehilot supplement of Hamevaser, 7 Elul, 5771:

Anyone who is not blind and deaf sees clearly that the earth is crumbling, and our eyes see that there is some process happening over the face of the world, and we were present to see that even America is shaking, and even though it already bent to fall once or twice [?], nevertheless, right now, it is actually shaking, and everyone can see with his eyes that it is moving and shaking. 

The reason for the matter is that HKB"H is looking down below and wants there to already be a rectification of the world.  This is because we have the following sign as a tradition: whenever we see that the earth begins to shake, then we know that "Behold he is coming" - that with this, Hashem Yitbarach is starting and opening our Redemption, and the salvation is already standing at the doorway, and we are already holding by "behold, he standeth behind our wall". 

And this is as what is in the Book of Daniel that before the time of Redemption, all the שרים [ministering angels?] will fall and new ones will come in their place, because the salvation will begin in a natural way and all will be hidden.


At Wed Sep 07, 06:30:00 AM 2011, Blogger Leah said...

Incredible! Thanks for posting this.

At Wed Sep 07, 07:37:00 AM 2011, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks, can you provide the link to Rav Fish's update?

At Wed Sep 07, 08:38:00 AM 2011, Blogger joshwaxman said...

My read of this is that the Gerrer Rebbe is disagreeing with the seeming derech hateva approach of the Klausenberger Rebbe. Would you agree?

At Wed Sep 07, 09:09:00 AM 2011, Blogger yaak said...

Here's a link.

Josh, interesting observation. It could be. I don't know.

At Wed Sep 07, 10:00:00 AM 2011, Anonymous tzvi bar lieb said...

so he said in 5772 after hoshana rabba moshiach war

At Wed Sep 07, 10:46:00 AM 2011, Anonymous Anonymous said...

chassidus different then kabbalah they want like the besht mercy on the olam kabbalah teaches fire and wrath on large segments we will see . stay tuned .


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