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Tuesday, April 28, 2009

Other Swine Flu/Edom/Har Tzion Thoughts

11 Comments:

At Tue Apr 28, 01:52:00 PM 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Equaling 1130?

"posted by yaak @ 4/28/2009 11:30:00 AM"

MY time.

 
At Tue Apr 28, 03:00:00 PM 2009, Blogger Neshama said...

Great analysis!

 
At Tue Apr 28, 05:46:00 PM 2009, Blogger ash said...

Just wanted to make a small point....
The pope visited the area affected by the earthquake AFTER the earthquake.
What is the significance of the pope visiting this area after an earthquake, especially since the Vatican is located in Italy?

Other than this little issue, I think that this was an interesting post.

 
At Tue Apr 28, 09:57:00 PM 2009, Anonymous Shiloh said...

There is something quite bizare about this flu. It supposedly mutated to combine bird, swine and human sources. Nature does not do this. This one stinks and sadly we will see more deaths until the scam is uncovered.

 
At Tue Apr 28, 11:41:00 PM 2009, Blogger yaak said...

Anonymous: haha! I didn't even notice that!

Neshama: thanks!

Ash: yes, I'm aware that he visited it afterwards. The significance of the fact that he visited it is minimal, I'll grant you. I just mentioned it since I happened to notice it in today's news. The significance of the earthquake itself, however, is much greater.

Shiloh: I don't know the science behind it, but if what you say is true, it's an interesting point.

 
At Wed Apr 29, 07:29:00 AM 2009, Blogger joshwaxman said...

don't forget that it is also gematra arel sefatayim.

also, check out my post:
http://parsha.blogspot.com/2009/04/did-researcher-admit-swine-flu-was.html

there are a lot of conspiracy theories going on about swine flu right now, but they are in all likelihood without merit. this is just one of them.

it does seem to be the case that flu viruses can cross species. See here:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=512351

and given enough time, and enough exposures, they combine, mutate, and so on. this is not surprising. get me some scientist (rather than alternative medicine folk), preferably a prominent biologist, who will go on record that "nature does not do this."

here is an example, in an article about bird flu, from April 2008:
http://www.scq.ubc.ca/so-whats-the-big-deal-about-bird-flu-anyway/
"When two strains of virus meet and re-combine, the resultant virus is different from either parent strain similar to the way that a baby is different from its parents. This process can result in rapid, dramatic shifts in the characteristics and pathogenicity of a virus.

The most lethal influenza pandemic known to date, the 1918 Spanish Flu, resulted from the adaptation of solely avian strains [2, 3]. However, we know that certain species, such as pigs, can be dually infected with both an avian and a human strain of influenza at the same time [2, 3]. This increases the likelihood of a recombination event resulting in a sufficiently altered virus that our immune system can no longer recognize."

so viruses cross species, and a pig (let us say) among the millions of pigs in the world gets both the human and swine flu. They combine, and spread to other pigs. One of those thousands of pigs also gets bird flu, and the result is a combination of all three strains. then it spreads to humans. How do you assert that nature does not do this? What is not credible about this etiology?

what we have, then, is micro-evolution in action. not evidence that this must have been created by some cabal.

kt,
josh

 
At Wed Apr 29, 01:01:00 PM 2009, Blogger Akiva said...

It's been pointed out to me by some Mexican Jewish readers that Mexico has an excellent history regarding the Jewish people. They took in Holocaust refugees that the US rejected during WWII, and have never had serious anti-semitism. Their record is better than the US.

 
At Wed Apr 29, 03:18:00 PM 2009, Blogger yaak said...

All true, Akiva, but if what I said is true, the message is not to Mexico - it's to the Vatican. Why Mexico gets the brunt of it?
הנסתרות לה' אלקינו

 
At Wed Apr 29, 05:46:00 PM 2009, Blogger Devorah said...

Borders.
Israel has trouble with people on its borders.... now America has the same problem, different reason.

 
At Wed Apr 29, 06:17:00 PM 2009, Anonymous joshwaxman said...

"Borders"
why, because america is evil and deserving of punishment?

kt,
josh

 
At Thu Apr 30, 12:20:00 PM 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

RE: Akiva's post above: Although all Latin American Jewish communities take serious security precautions, Mexico does have a very good record--nothwithstanding, of course, the fact that the inquisition did not end until 1820.

HaSepharadi

 

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