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Monday, August 25, 2014

Napa Earthquake II

Breitbart - NAPA EARTHQUAKE COULD RAISE WINE PRICES

Sotah 49b (Daf | Text | English)
בעקבות משיחא חוצפא יסגא ויוקר יאמיר הגפן תתן פריה והיין ביוקר

 IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE MESSIAH1  INSOLENCE WILL INCREASE AND HONOUR DWINDLE;2  THE VINE WILL YIELD ITS FRUIT [ABUNDANTLY] BUT WINE WILL BE DEAR
Although Rashi (in Sotah and in Sanhedrin) gives other reasons why the price will rise despite the abundance, an earthquake causing the spillage of an enormous amount of wine is as good a reason as any.

(h/t for the idea - commenter Leah on previous post)

3 Comments:

At Mon Aug 25, 06:25:00 PM 2014, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ca just accepted homosexual mareriage in the last several years , no shame ! Disrespect for Noachidism and Torah . Talmud says earthquakes "come as a result of male sodomy " . But they take it a step further they legitmize it with a ketubah . This is in gemarrah ketubah not sure the pg number. There lucky Ca still exists with the constant trash of hollywood and the evil jews who back the homosexual movement with loads of dough . It sickens me how chabad cowers to gelt even if the doner supports immorality . I dont say the al tirrah possuk after alynu because of this .

 
At Mon Aug 25, 10:23:00 PM 2014, Blogger Leah said...

Thanks for the h/t Yaak. From your comments section here, anonymous mentions the ketubot /toevah /earthquake situation in Ca.
There are two things that consistently come to mind when I hear of earthquakes and fires in Ca:
Number one is we are not allowed to say davka G-d does/did this because of such and such abomination. The second thought is: one would have to be asleep (either spiritually or physically)not to see that it could be a Divine punishment for toevah and ketubot for toevah etc...
It seems like it's an impossibility to know for sure and that we lack authority, yet, for sureit is the place where there seems to be the most vocal and physical elements of these abominations exists as well as the most "grassroots pushiness until they get a law passed" state in the US.
Your thoughts? Cite any sources, too if possible.
Thanks

 
At Mon Aug 25, 10:47:00 PM 2014, Blogger yaak said...

The commenter referred to Hullin 92a-b and Bereishit Rabba 26:9.

There is also the Yerushalmi Berachot 9:2, which lists משכב זכר as Ribbi Aha's reason for earthquakes.

"We are not allowed to say" - yes, that's correct, but we can guess, as you said, and there are Gedolei Yisrael who may give their reasons whose opinions have much more weight than ours.

 

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