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Friday, April 17, 2015

Elderly Iranian-Israeli Kabbalist: War After Shavuot Until Sukkot, Followed By Mashiah

Shtieble:

אומרים בשם המקובל האלוקי חכם הישיש רבי ששון טבאשי שליט”א, צדיק נסתר ומופלא יליד איראן שגר בירושלים בשכונת כרם, והוא תלמיד חכם זקן בן -106- וכבר כמה פעמים שחזה באופן מדויק את מלחמת לבנון, והמפרץ, ונפילת מגדלי התאומים, אמר שלשום שגילו לו מן השמים, ששבוע אחרי שבועות תפרוץ מלחמה ענקית במזרח התיכון, ויהיה מצב קשה מאוד עד סוכות, ואח”כ יבוא משיח.

My translation:

They say in the name of the G-dly Kabbalist, the elderly Hacham Rabbi Sasson Tabashi [Tabasi?] Shlit"a, a hidden and remarkable Tzaddik, born in Iran, who lives in Yerushalayim in the Kerem neighborhood [Beit Hakerem? Kerem Avraham? Ein Kerem?] , and he is a Talmid Hacham who is elderly - 106 years old.

And already many times, he foresaw exactly the Lebanon War, the Gulf War, and the falling of the Twin Towers.

He said two days ago that they revealed to him from Heaven that a week after Shavuot, a giant war will break out in the Middle East, and it will be a difficult situation until Sukkot, and afterwards, Mashiah will come.

In case you missed it, see also the previous post.

33 Comments:

At Fri Apr 17, 03:46:00 PM 2015, Blogger joshwaxman said...

See this post at Shirat Devorah, in which Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi has asserted that people who claim to be able to predict the future are fakers.

 
At Fri Apr 17, 04:19:00 PM 2015, Blogger yaak said...

Already seen.

Interesting how he suddenly suits your needs.

We'll have to wait and see to determine the accuracy of this prediction.

 
At Fri Apr 17, 04:22:00 PM 2015, Blogger joshwaxman said...

Not "interesting". I am amused, and wanted to call it to your attention, to see how you would balance it.

Note that rabbi mizrachi also has endorsed the autistics, to prove gilgul, perhaps not realizing that they have also made predictions.

 
At Fri Apr 17, 04:26:00 PM 2015, Blogger joshwaxman said...

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At Fri Apr 17, 04:27:00 PM 2015, Blogger joshwaxman said...

oy, what was wrong with that?

 
At Fri Apr 17, 04:32:00 PM 2015, Blogger yaak said...

Josh, I deleted your other comment.
Let's stick to the topic.

You make some interesting points. And Rabbi Mizrachi Shlit"a would probably not agree with this post.

I never heard of this Kabbalist before myself, and cannot vouch for the accuracy of the Shtieble report, and obviously not for the accuracy of the prediction. I'm not telling people to believe it either. I'm just reporting on it to forewarn people in case it is accurate.

I just find it interesting that you have besmirched Rabbi Mizrachi's name on your blog and now use him to discredit mine. Whatever...

 
At Fri Apr 17, 04:32:00 PM 2015, Blogger joshwaxman said...

you did realize that the post was in jest, right? (you have to read far enough, rather than making snap judgments.)

"We'll have to wait and see to determine the accuracy of this prediction."

OK, good.

And what is your plan if it doesn't come to pass? Certainly not a blog post noting that it is one week past Shavuot and it hasn't come to pass, and that maybe Rabbi Mizrachi was right on this point.

 
At Fri Apr 17, 04:37:00 PM 2015, Blogger joshwaxman said...

I just find it interesting that you have besmirched Rabbi Mizrachi's name on your blog and now use him to discredit mine. Whatever...

Not interesting at all. As I said, I find this all very amusing, and thought it would be hilarious to bring Rabbi Mizrachi, who you have supported, as a counterpoint to your post. And that you would understand the funniness of it, rather than thinking that I was acting in a dishonest manner.

(And I didn't besmirch him. I accurately reported what he said, together with videos documenting what he said -- together with some exculpatory information, that he said "this isn't our way" about murder. That you chose to misinterpret what he said does not mean that my correct interpretation was a besmirching.)

 
At Fri Apr 17, 04:37:00 PM 2015, Blogger yaak said...

And what good would that serve?

To discredit a 106-year-old rabbi? Is that your good idea of a good idea for a blog post?

 
At Fri Apr 17, 04:40:00 PM 2015, Blogger yaak said...

Your amusement just might mean the Geula.

Again, we'll have to wait and see.

Let's wait with anticipation as someone who is supposed to be מחכה לו בכל יום שיבא than just being amused and mocking.

 
At Fri Apr 17, 04:41:00 PM 2015, Blogger joshwaxman said...

Probably not a good idea for a blog post on my blog.

On your blog, as a regularly scheduled follow-up to such regular sky-is-falling predictions, yes, it would serve a great purpose.

And the purpose is not to discredit a 106-year old, now famous, "hidden" tzaddik. (Who was apparently "hidden" as well as he prophetically claimed to followers that "he foresaw exactly the Lebanon War, the Gulf War, and the falling of the Twin Towers".)

 
At Fri Apr 17, 04:44:00 PM 2015, Blogger yaak said...

Probably not a good idea for a blog post on my blog.

What do you mean? You love those types of blog posts! After all, you find them "amusing"!

 
At Fri Apr 17, 04:45:00 PM 2015, Blogger joshwaxman said...

Your amusement just might mean the Geula.

You forget that EVERYTHING just might mean the Geula.

Let's wait with anticipation as someone who is supposed to be מחכה לו בכל יום שיבא than just being amused and mocking.
Not sure if you forgot our detailed discussion about this in the past, but I can wait with anticipation for Mashiach without lending any credence to the words of random "hidden tzaddikim" who pop out from under rocks every few months, or words (mis-)attributed to Gedolim. Remember our discussion of מחכה לו בכל יום שיבא?

 
At Fri Apr 17, 04:46:00 PM 2015, Blogger joshwaxman said...

What do you mean? You love those types of blog posts!

In the past year, how many such blog posts have I made? Can you count them on one finger?

(Where I did post in the more distant past, they were in the context of active online discussions.)

 
At Fri Apr 17, 04:51:00 PM 2015, Blogger yaak said...

Yes, I remember our discussion of מחכה לו before, and you are as wrong then as you are now.

Let's agree to disagree here since I cannot keep checking my inbox - I have to get ready for Shabbat.

Shabbat Shalom.

May we merit Yom Shekulo Shabbat.

 
At Sat Apr 18, 01:49:00 PM 2015, Blogger Neshama said...

This may be of value concerning this post:
http://thehill.com/policy/defense/239295-us-officials-concerned-about-iranian-convoy-headed-towards-yemen

 
At Sat Apr 18, 04:41:00 PM 2015, Blogger Devorah said...

Josh there is a major difference between an actual tzadik who does not charge money to state his ''predictions'' which have come to him in a dream, and a shyster kabalist who exploits gullible people, which is what Rabbi Mizrachi was referring to. Once money comes into the equation, all credibility goes out the window. You need to differentiate between the good and the bad here.

 
At Sat Apr 18, 08:26:00 PM 2015, Blogger joshwaxman said...

At 1:05, he says they may be righteous and may be holy, but still don't know the future. That there is no such thing. Only at 1:45 does he bring in when involved with money, that then they are real criminals.

So I think rabbi mizrachi is fairly clear that this is not a distinction he makes, because there is no such thing as knowing the future.

 
At Sat Apr 18, 08:28:00 PM 2015, Blogger joshwaxman said...

I agree that his **reason** for saying all this was because of the fraudsters who charge money, but still, he first makes the general categorical statement and only then moves on to those additionally who take money.

 
At Sat Apr 18, 08:39:00 PM 2015, Blogger Devorah said...

No one can be 100% sure, as the future can change depending on many things. But I believe that tzadikim can see things that may [or may not] happen, sometimes they see visions or have dreams which they report and the message serves as a warning for the generation to repent.It is a possibility. And hopefully everyone who reads it knows that it may or may not happen, it is after all predicting the future, which is subject to changes as decreed in Shamayim.

 
At Sat Apr 18, 08:48:00 PM 2015, Blogger joshwaxman said...

That may be true.

I am not convinced that that was what Rabbi Mizrachi was saying in that video, though. (Even neviim could be 'wrong', if they prophesy a negative, because the prophecy was conditional on continued negative behavior of the people.)

 
At Sun Apr 19, 11:49:00 PM 2015, Anonymous AVRAHAM said...

so when after shavues moshicah comes
from shavos to sukkus moshiach comes /???


did rav chaim kanievsky say this will happen

 
At Sun Apr 19, 11:50:00 PM 2015, Anonymous AVRAHAM said...

PLEASE FINF OUT WHEN HE COMING
DO WE NEED IN AMERICA COME FIRST

 
At Mon Apr 20, 04:58:00 AM 2015, Blogger joshwaxman said...

Yaak, would you please tell Avraham not to frantically sell his possessions and move to Israel, on the basis of this? And explain (perhaps prominently in a separate blog post ) that Rav Kanievsky did not say "this year"?

 
At Mon Apr 20, 06:28:00 AM 2015, Blogger yaak said...

If "AVRAHAM" is Shawn Trees, he should sell his possessions and move to Lebanon.

 
At Mon Apr 20, 06:36:00 AM 2015, Blogger joshwaxman said...

heh.

:)

 
At Mon Apr 20, 04:16:00 PM 2015, Blogger yaak said...

Just found on בעולמם של חרדים:

מאת מקובל

חכם ששון טבאשי החברותא של הרב כדורי מהעיר העתיקה מלפני 70 שנה אמר שצריך לעבוד על זה שבחג השבועות תשע"ה לא יהיה יהודי אחד בעולם שלא יגמור את כל התהילים וזה מה שיציל אותנו.הרבי מקאליב נפגש לפני כמה שנים עם רבי חיים גרינמן וסיפר לו שהחזון איש אמר לו בחלום שאם כולם יגידו תהלים המשיח יבוא

 
At Mon Apr 20, 04:26:00 PM 2015, Blogger yaak said...

BTW, the picture that that site used for him is likely not him, as I found the same picture for רב אבידני עלואן here.

 
At Tue Apr 21, 01:11:00 AM 2015, Anonymous Yosef said...

hello moshiach only come threw shalom josh

 
At Tue Apr 21, 08:26:00 AM 2015, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is not a human that ever lived that can claim heaven told him the times of mashiach, because such info is hidden from all mankind. There are however rules of how to eliminate a navi sheker.

 
At Mon May 25, 03:10:00 AM 2015, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have no doubt that it is a fake article and I will prove it. They put a "picture" of him and in reality whoever posted this article used a picture from a website kurdishjews.com There is no record of this person or his previous claims of the twin towers or lebanon war. There is no article in any paper or on any website.

IT"S A FAKE!
Here is information about him as well as his alleged picture:

http://bshch.blogspot.co.il/2015/04/blog-post_1272.html

Here is the real person that picture represents:

http://www.kurdishjewry.org.il/ishim.htm#

The Rav in the picture is Abidani Aluwen and was niftar in 1981!

Don't believe everything you read!

 
At Mon May 25, 11:10:00 PM 2015, Blogger yaak said...

I mentioned the same exact information as you did in the comments above, Anonymous.

It looks suspicious, but I haven't been given proof that the rabbi is a fake or that he never said what he said. All that proves is that the picture used of him is a fake. If you have further information other than about the picture - which I knew already - please let me know.

 
At Tue May 26, 06:40:00 AM 2015, Blogger Professor Trek said...

i'll believe it when i see it

 

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