Monday, January 18, 2016

Like Fire and Water

Judeo-Xtian values is an oxymoron.  Any sort of partnership between them is therefore untenable.  It makes no difference how many times the Pope visits a synagogue, or how many times a Baptist choir is invited to sing in a shul, or how many "rabbis" agree to Kasher a pig, there may be no mixture - only temporary tolerance (when they don't bother us physically or spiritually).

Pesahim 118b (Daf | Text | English [pdf p.388]) expounding this verse:
אמר רבי חייא בר אבא אמר רבי יוחנן געור בחיה שכל מעשיה נכתבין בקולמוס אחד (תהילים סח) עדת אבירים בעגלי עמים ששחטו אבירים כעגלים שאין להם בעלים (תהילים סח) מתרפס ברצי כסף שפושטין יד לקבל ממון ואין עושין רצון בעלים (תהילים סח) פיזר עמים קרבות יחפצון מי גרם להם לישראל שיתפזרו לבין אומות העולם קריבות שהיו חפצין בהן
R. Hiyya b. Abba interpreted it in R. Johanan's name: Rebuke the wild beast all of whose actions may be recorded with the same pen. ‘The multitude of the bulls [abbirim], with the calves of the people’: that means that they slaughtered the valiant [abbirim] like calves which have no owners. ‘Everyone opening his hand with the desire of money’: they stretch out their hand to accept the money, but do not carry out its owners’ wishes. ‘He hath scattered the people that delight in approaches’: what caused Israel to be scattered among the nations? The approaches [to the nations] which they desired.
The Mahara"l in Netzah Yisrael explains that even in the world we currently live, the first 3 kingdoms (Bavel, Madai, and Yavan) are somewhat drawn toward Israel, and when Mashiah comes, they will be totally drawn toward Israel, so they have a connection to Israel.  The fourth nation, however, Edom, cannot have a connection to Israel (since as we know, when one falls, the other rises, so a connection is made impossible).  He explains that when we rebuke this wild beast of Edom (the only anonymous wild beast among the beasts described by Daniel), then we will acquire a community (Edah).

Later, he explains that any two things that are opposites cannot have a connection - like fire and water.  When we distance ourselves from the nations, we can overcome being scattered among them, but when we try to connect with them, we just get further scattered and consumed inside them.  (He says this even clearer here.)


At Mon Jan 18, 06:36:00 PM 2016, Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

So, when Jews have an opportunity to LEAVE the lands of Edom, perhaps they should get the heck out of there?? that is as long as they have a place to go in Eretz Yisrael, of course. Maybe it would be best to vote for Ted Cruz, a fundamentalist Xtian, from a distance, if this is the case of course, like from 7000 miles away from those New York values.

At Mon Jan 18, 07:59:00 PM 2016, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course, this is so obvious. This is part of the agenda now to make a one world religion and those rabbis(?) who partake of the interfaith shpiel are the Erev Rav rabbis. Any Yehudi who is a yehudi knows this instinctively. This has been in the news (especially what's being done in EY, r'l, of late) for a # of years; the infiltration, the missionizing, buying property in Eretz Hakodesh. 'rabbis' are now attending their religious celebrations and them inviting the Xtians to 'jewish' ones.
Just go to and you can read all about it.

At Mon Jan 18, 08:01:00 PM 2016, Blogger CRPinto said...

המבדיל בין קודש לחול,בין אור לחושך, בין ישראל לעמים ובין יום השבעי לששת המעשהץ

how can you forget that quote !

At Tue Jan 19, 12:35:00 AM 2016, Blogger Neshama said...

Just a thought, the composition of HAIL, one of the makkos in Mitzrayim, was fire in ice that rained down on them. This was considered a miracle within a miracle, because fire which normally rises up (like in a candle), was instead directed down to inflict immense damage. So are the ways of HaShem. I heard this at a weekly shiur I attend.


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