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Wednesday, January 16, 2008

If you want Shas to bolt...

If you want to send a letter to Shas to bolt the coalition (now that Yisrael Beiteinu left), this is the way to do it. Unlike 99.9% of comments I've seen on the matter.


At Wed Jan 16, 08:12:00 PM 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

dont you think our tzadikim know what they are doing?

how dare we pressure them?

shas was ok with oslo
shas was ok with the disengagement
they are ok with no growth in the settlements
perhaps Hashem wants it this way

At Wed Jan 16, 11:42:00 PM 2008, Blogger yaak said...

Anonymous, I can't tell if your comment is sarcastic or not, although, my guess is that it is.

Shas accepted Oslo, in hopes for peace that never came.
Shas was never OK with the disengagement. They want growth in the settlements.

In case your comment was not sarcastic, a well-meaning, well-natured letter - not as pressure - but to show what other Torah-true Jews are thinking, doesn't hurt. The letter mentioned in is an example of one.

At Thu Jan 17, 06:48:00 AM 2008, Blogger nava said...

I'm glad that you finally see the truth, yaak.

Charedim do not belong in clubs, bars, theaters, and definitely, not in secular governments.

No one is above the Torah!

At Thu Jan 17, 09:19:00 AM 2008, Blogger yaak said...

I'm not saying that they never belong in secular governments (of course, I'd MUCH rather prefer a religious government). Rather, it's time for this slippery slope of this government to be nipped in the bud now, rather than later.

Of course, I don't know the inside information, and I'm just speaking from the way I see it. There could be other heshbonot that outweigh this that I'm not privy to.

At Thu Jan 17, 02:59:00 PM 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shas did not accept oslo
Shas made oslo possible

remember they joined the government to give it a jewish majority stamp of approval

Like you I hope there is some spiritual information that we are not privy to

The only reason for Shas to be in the government
is money money money money
ayn kemach ayn torah

At Sun Jan 20, 03:26:00 PM 2008, Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

The kemach in this case is the manure of a jackass. Chazal did not wish to live in this generation, for they understood that they would need to peer at the outside world through this manure and in this case use bribe money to fund Jewish education. It is time that Shas find a source of funding that does not displace 100,000 Jews from their homes and does not destroy the balance of a undivided Jerusalem. If they do not leave soon and bring down this government, a horrendous Chillul HaShem will follow.

At Mon Jan 21, 12:28:00 PM 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shas did not just make Oslo possible, Rav Ovadia explicitly pushed Rabin to go the way of Peres.

At Mon Jan 21, 09:44:00 PM 2008, Blogger Batya said...

The letters won't help.
Only if the polls say that they're losing support beause they are in the coalition.

At Mon Jan 21, 11:32:00 PM 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shas will jump to the other (right-wing) wagon if and only if this one is about to fall off the cliff anyway.

At Tue Jan 22, 12:37:00 PM 2008, Blogger yaak said...

Batya, if the polls show them getting fewer seats, why should they leave? That may be an incentive for them to stay, to hold onto their ministerial jobs and money for Yeshivot, which they wouldn't get otherwise. Unless it's proven that their polls are only dropping due to their staying in the coalition.

Meanwhile, check out Cosmic's new post on the matter.

At Tue Jan 22, 11:39:00 PM 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Polite petitions won't help and are not the proper halachic response to Chilul HaShem. Which is protest. Don't disparage the 99.9%. Public Sin requires public Teshuva. Without it, public Rebuke is due.


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