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Thursday, September 22, 2011

Geula Update from Rav Fish - Nitzavim/Vayelech, 5771 - Part 2

Actually, part 1 was really a special edition, but I already called it part 1, so I'll call this one part 2.  Just a few things gleaned from his latest.

  • The verse אִם יִתָּקַע שׁוֹפָר בְּעִיר וְעָם לֹא יֶחֱרָדוּ ["Shall the horn be blown in a city, and the people not tremble?"] has the gematria of כ"ה אלול ה'תשע"א.
  • [YY - Rav Fish removed the "rarity" of 25 Elul falling on Shabbat in this latest version, just adding that the same will occur in 2 years and in 3 years.]
  • The Rav who instructed people to store water and food now says that there will be no war soon as we merited to sweeten the judgement against us.
  • Perhaps, when it says וענו אשור וענו עבר, that refers to Turkey starting up with Greece and Cyprus.
  • Perhaps, after Mubarak had a personal disagreement with Erdogan [YY-is this true?], now that Mubarak is no longer in power, Erdogan went to Egypt and is now "conquering" Egypt, which is how the Ibn Ezra on Daniel 11:36-40 explains it.
  • Not only is ארדואן=ארס, but it also equals איראן.
  • Commentator Berit Olam on Sefer Hasidim (928) says that there are 424 chapters of Mishnayot, which equals the gematria of משיח בן דוד.
  • Hagaon R' Avraham Meisels from Montreal says if you count the verses from the beginning of the Torah to the 5771st verse, you get to: כִּי-אֵשׁ קָדְחָה בְאַפִּי,   וַתִּיקַד עַד-שְׁאוֹל תַּחְתִּית;    וַתֹּאכַל אֶרֶץ וִיבֻלָהּ,   וַתְּלַהֵט מוֹסְדֵי הָרִים [For a fire is kindled in My nostril, and burneth unto the depths of the nether-world, and devoureth the earth with her produce, and setteth ablaze the foundations of the mountains.], which makes sense due to all the disasters, tragedies and poverty that has befallen us lately.  Also, if you start from end going backwards toward the beginning, the 5771st verse is:  בְּזֵעַת אַפֶּיךָ, תֹּאכַל לֶחֶם, עַד שׁוּבְךָ אֶל-הָאֲדָמָה, כִּי מִמֶּנָּה לֻקָּחְתָּ:  כִּי-עָפָר אַתָּה, וְאֶל-עָפָר תָּשׁוּב [In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken; for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.]
  • In the United States, Motza'ei Shemita, 5761 was שמיטת קרקעות [Shemitta of the land - as the twin towers fell].  Motza'ei Shemita, 5768 was שמיטת כספים [Shemitta of money - as that started the economic downturn].  We hope that Motza'ei Shemita, 5775 will be the completion of the filtering of good from bad as the Ariza"l said.


At Thu Sep 22, 12:39:00 PM 2011, Anonymous Anonymous said...

דברי חלומות לא מעלין ולא מורידין

Though dream and fantasy you shall not let yourself receive spiritual high, nor a spiritual low.

חלומות שוא ידברו

(I'm surprised no one yet claimed the zohar will be fulfilled with the falling satellite thats due to make a reentry in the next few days.)

At Thu Sep 22, 01:01:00 PM 2011, Blogger Devorah said...

The verse אִם יִתָּקַע שׁוֹפָר בְּעִיר וְעָם לֹא יֶחֱרָדוּ ["Shall the horn be blown in a city, and the people not tremble?"] has the gematria of כ"ה אלול ה'תשע"א.

Wow. What's gonna happen tomorrow?

At Thu Sep 22, 01:05:00 PM 2011, Blogger yaak said...

Just to clarify, it's just the words "שופר בעיר" that have that gematria, as if the verse read:

If the 25th of Elul, 5771 will be blasted, and the nation will not tremble?

At Thu Sep 22, 01:05:00 PM 2011, Blogger Devorah said...

I thought this was a typo in the last post, but he's done it again, so why is Erdogan spelt without a gimel:

Not only is ארדואן=ארס, but it also equals איראן.

At Thu Sep 22, 01:10:00 PM 2011, Blogger yaak said...

That's how it's pronounced, Devorah. The "g" is silent.

At Thu Sep 22, 01:38:00 PM 2011, Blogger yaak said...

BTW, I didn't know that either until about 2 months ago.

At Thu Sep 22, 02:00:00 PM 2011, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regarding 25th of 6th month (Elul?) on Shabbat.
Although Zohar (Balak 212) says this is significant..per the Sulam it is not to be taken literally. The Zohar is all a hint to the Sephirot, and it is hinting at (Malchus B'Ysod). The sixth month is Ysod, כה is Malchus. The point is to realize that we cannot say the Zohar is talking about a specific day in our is teaching a deep lesson about the Midos of Hashem at the time of revelation of Moshiach. The lesson for us is to not quote the Zohar Hakodosh without understanding that is referring to very deep lessons way beyond simple reference to current events. It is not a history book, or a book of future is a roadmap to the Sephirot, and since we don't have a clue about what they are..probably should not quote it in regards to current events (since it is referring to root spiritual events) that may or not be similar to what we are physically experiencing. Ask a Mekubal..not any blog or website in regards to any Zohar quotes. (The Sulam was a Mekubal).

At Thu Sep 22, 02:08:00 PM 2011, Blogger yaak said...

Anonymous 2:00,

I agree that we should follow Mekubalim vs. blogs. Of course. And I know that the Sulam has his way of understanding it, which is Emet as well. And I'll say that I am not a bar-plugta of the Sulam.

However, the Zohar can most definitely be used for future prophecy. To say otherwise is arguing with a whole bunch of sefarim throughout the ages who have used it as such. I'll bring you a whole bunch of proofs if you'd like.

At Thu Sep 22, 02:18:00 PM 2011, Blogger yaak said...

This is besides the fact that Rav Fish himself wrote sefarim on Kabbala.

At Thu Sep 22, 02:36:00 PM 2011, Blogger Neshama said...

That satellite should only make a direct hit on the UN. Shame it's going to break up.

At Thu Sep 22, 02:56:00 PM 2011, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In terms of future prophecy,I agree there are some cases - meaning that the Zohar Hakodesh specified that certain events would happen at certain times (for example in the 6th century of the 6th millenium all the secrets of heaven and earth would be opened), that would be a case where there was a clear correlation between what we are experiencing in our physical world and what is happening spiritually. That year was 1840(C.E), when the industrial revolution, secrets of magnetism, electricity, steam engine, etc. were revealed because it was necessary for the world to prepare for Shabat (the 7th millenuium). But this correlation is NOT always evident, therefore Mekubalim must be consulted to see if there really is any correlation, and in most cases we are not at the level to see any correlation since we do not know what the Zohar Hakodesh means in the first place. Therefore, extreme caution must be used. The Zohar is revealing things at the root level, it is very hard to see how the root affects the branch, or how a particular mutation in a gene in the DNA causes a disease. To quote a Mekubal would be OK, but very few Rabbaim are Mekubalim. It is not surprising that many "see prophecy" in the Zohar Hakodesh, because it reveals so much truth about how things really work, and once one knows how things really work, those principles can be applied to our physical world as well, but again, only if one is really connected to Mekubalim can one say a thing. Step one, find out what the Zohar really is is truth buried in many layers of things we relate do (physical intimacy,etc)..I just hate to see it quoted on blogs casually out of context (not saying that you did that). All must be aware that the literal translation is a hint to something else much deeper, and I truly doubt that this really means the 25th of Elul on Shabbat will reveal Moshiach (but he might come tonight, the 23rd,24th,etc). What would be more significant to me is if the 25th comes out on a Sunday, because that is the same as the FIRST day of creation, and man is created on 6th day Friday, but this year R"H starts on a Thursday, and not sure our calendar every has man's creation on a Friday (no it does not for certain halachic reasons ). But Rosh Hashana is one long this year Thurs/Fri is right before Shabbat, so it is sort of similar to the creation when man was created right before Shabbat. Bottom line, time for action is now, that is what the Shofar is telling us. Get moving and change, then we can expect Shabbat, if we don't change, then we can expect more of the garbage we are experiencing.

At Thu Sep 22, 11:36:00 PM 2011, Anonymous tzvi bar lieb said...

so will moshiach come on friday and war start with israewl


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