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Wednesday, October 23, 2013

And You Wonder Why Mashiah Has Such a Bad Name Nowadays...

Case #1
7/29/11 - Baba Elazar ZT"L is stabbed to death by Asher Dahan

VIN: Jerusalem - Suspect In Abu Chatzeira Murder Made Reference To Moshiach Ben Yosef
According to Yediot Ahronot, Dahan’s bizarre behavior began at Shachris yesterday morning when he requested a that a misheberach be made for him. When questioned about his request by fellow daveners, Dahan is said to have replied “I need a misheberach.” Later during the day when Dahan’s credit card was refused by a local supermarket he allegedly told the cashier “you are going to be hearing about me”. He was also spotted crying in his yeshiva and when asked what was wrong he replied, “I am crying for Moshiach Ben Yosef not to die.”

Case #2
10/18/2011 - Man Claiming to be Mashiah Interrupts Rav Ovadia's Amida
From Kikar:

An apparently disturbed individual interrupted Rav Ovadia Yosef's Amida of Arvit on Hoshana Rabba, claiming "I am Mashiah Ben David. I request that Rav Ovadia annoint me as the king."

Everyone, including apparently Rav Ovadia Shlit"a himself, was afraid of the man.

He was quickly taken out of the Beit Midrash by reporter Ephraim Gilad, who described the man as extremely strong, and said that he was afraid for Rav Ovadia's safety. He told him not to return there again.

Case #3
10/23/13 - Rav Shteinman Shlit"a is attacked by an Avreich, cursing him in the process

Kikar has a statement by the family of the attacker:
Source: Kikar
Translation:
BS"D
We are hereby informing with this that we .... follow the light of Maran Hagaon Rav Aharon Yehuda Leib Shteinman Shlit"a and all our actions are according to his Halachic decisions.  And our dear son - may Hashem send him a speedy recovery quickly - has worked and will work for the Yahadut Hatorah "Gimel" list, as is known to all those who know him.  And that which occurred by Maran Hagaon Rav Aharon Yehuda Leib Shteinman Shlit"a, where he cried out about Maran that he is Mashiah - or anything else if it occurred - is only mental illness.  And we request from anyone who is able not to take the matter out of context for our honor and for the honor of Maran Hagaon Rav Aharon Yehuda Leib Shlit"a.


What is the fascination of these mentally ill Shotim with Mashiah and Gedolim? Why do they always bring Mashiah up before doing something terrible to Gedolim?

I'm open to suggestions.

14 Comments:

At Wed Oct 23, 05:48:00 PM 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is says in Zohar Hakadosh that Rabbi Akiva was gilgul of Issahar Ben Yaakov. And when they took rabbi Akiva's life who was innocent at all, it will be kappara for the future redemption. When Mashiah will come we not be worthy of any Mercy because of our sins, but because of rabbi Akiva's death we will be saved.
Those tsaddikim who give up life for Am Israel save that generation. And I thinks that is why when those shotim who mention Mashiah's name is a message that Hashem is taking tsaddik's life in order to bring Mashiah with Mercy.

 
At Wed Oct 23, 05:51:00 PM 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

taking from tikenei Zohar (Chae Sarah, yom revii)

 
At Wed Oct 23, 06:34:00 PM 2013, Blogger Jesterhead45 said...

Great, so the Jewish people now have to deal with desperate crazies from within who (Heaven Forbid) increasingly subscribe to the notion that slaying Tsaddikim (or one of the 36) will somehow bring Moshiach in a similar manner to the plot of a mystery thriller novel called "The Righteous Men" by Sam Bourne (despite the antagonists being some sect of xianity that is actively targeting people believed to be Lamedvavniks).

 
At Wed Oct 23, 06:43:00 PM 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

those tsaddikim give up their life leshem shammaim, those shotim or goyim are just a stick of Hashem

 
At Thu Oct 24, 12:05:00 AM 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i read the besht said mental lunacy illness sctizophrenic disorders and nevuah are a handbreath apart . tzaddikim have visions and hear voices schtizophrenics do too !thats why there is heavy medications and hundreds of mental hospitals all over the world . I think ,bilaam , paul and john the baptist suffered from mental disorders where they heard voices and had visions . Now 3.5 billion people are devotees of there lunacy. And i might add 15 million jewish lives butchered over 2,000 years because of there visions and voices .

 
At Thu Oct 24, 12:57:00 AM 2013, Anonymous e said...

||Always remember, those who hurt you, are maniacs!|| ~ KabbalahWisdom

Gil Ronen: You know, there's just a feeling, I think every body has it, by now, that, you know, we're just waiting, I guess, for either for the right leader to come along and may be he's out there and he's not coming out of the wings or may be at the right moment to come along for this leadership to Spring up.

Tamar Yonah: We just basically need to win it.

Gil Ronen: Force is the only thing that has ever proven itself. Now, the question is, do we have the gumption, do we have the guts, do we have what ever it takes to use this force and, you know, it has to be used, I'm sorry to say, it has to be used in a cruel wei and we have to be ready for cruelty because the Enemy is exceedingly cruel. They've been butchering each other. We're in a very Chaotic Area, so if we're not prepared to use force and, if need be, to use a LOT av force, then, you know, things are not gonna get any better. Things will only get worse. That's how it is; that's how it is. Remember, when it decided that it wanted to win the war against Japan, it did what it had to do. They said, "NO. We're gonna defeat them and they brought it on themselves and what ever happens it's there Fault." You see? And that's how you win a war against a Cruel Enemy Who's Crazy and these Guys are every bit as Crazy as Japan was, so we need to be every bit as 'crazy'"

‎||To the extent that Christians shaped your consciousness, EEUU are psychotic and this is no joke and let me tell EU something else, too; EVERYBODY — except the Euro-Gentiles themselves and the people under their cultural influence and authority — knows this: The Jews know Ur crazy. The Asians know Ur crazy. The Indians know Ur crazy.|| ~ D² of Tzvat

 
At Thu Oct 24, 08:37:00 AM 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Could Mashiach be diagnosed with Messiah-Complex (schizophrenic)?

 
At Thu Oct 24, 09:07:00 AM 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

i read the besht said mental lunacy illness sctizophrenic disorders and nevuah are a handbreath apart . tzaddikim have visions and hear voices schtizophrenics do too !thats why there is heavy medications and hundreds of mental hospitals all over the world . I think ,bilaam , paul and john the baptist suffered from mental disorders where they heard voices and had visions . Now 3.5 billion people are devotees of there lunacy. And i might add 15 million jewish lives butchered over 2,000 years because of there visions and voices
Didn't Moses hear voices and saw a burning bush ?
Didn't Ezekiel, Elijah, Isaiah (who walked around naked and barefoot 3 1525years) hear voices and saw visions ?

 
At Thu Oct 24, 10:49:00 AM 2013, Anonymous shevey said...

Clearly Hashem has not forgotten that he is supposed to send Mashiach.
Clearly there are worlds overlapping our own that sometimes the bounderies are to thin to hold the knowing of things and it affects and disturbs those who are sensitive.
I have to readjust myself often, reminding myself that of all of the worlds, this one is the furthest from Hashem. Therefore, this world is the least real of all of the worlds.The higher less visible worlds are the accurate and true ones.
So what is happening?
A little bit of holiness overwhelms the frail human mind. And to somebody used to being locked in on the basest levels, to suddenly have access to vast storerooms of elevation and knowing, they don't have the discipline or self-control to handle it.

 
At Thu Oct 24, 12:24:00 PM 2013, Blogger Neshama said...

I find the letter from the family a bit strange. Instead of just apologizing (and expressing his imbalance) for their member's outburst, they need to qualify his association to "G" and solidify their association to the Rabbi?

Something strange going on here! I hope it all comes out in the wash, as they say.

 
At Thu Oct 24, 12:28:00 PM 2013, Blogger yaak said...

Neshama,

That - I understand. There was a lot of speculation that the perp (his name has been released by Kikar, BTW) was associated with the Bnei Torah party, which was against ג in the recent elections. The family is clarifying that this is not the case.

 
At Thu Oct 24, 12:46:00 PM 2013, Blogger Neshama said...

Yes, but why is this an issue at all?
Something much more to this.
Wait a minute ... And, since when, does "Mashiah Has Such a Bad Name Nowadays..."
Shame, Moshiach NEVER has a bad name; its people who have bad thoughts.

 
At Thu Oct 24, 01:28:00 PM 2013, Blogger yaak said...

Neshama,

What I mean is that people are afraid to discuss Mashiah issues because they're afraid of being labeled "Sabbatean" or "Moshichist".

In fact, just a couple days ago, a blogger whom I respect said a disparaging thing about Rav Kaduri ZT"L for predicting the Keitz, which caused the Xtians to make books and movies about it. It is a shame what the Xtians did to his name, but this could hardly be blamed on Rav Kaduri ZT"L. (Should Hashem not have given us the Torah b/c the Xtians would copy it and distort it?)

 
At Thu Oct 24, 02:03:00 PM 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't you all see, since we are now in pre-Moshiach's arrival, the sitra achra is working overtime to hinder Moshiach's coming. The internet (which is really the modern version of the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil) has also contributed to much of the lunacy in the world. The acceptance by world's societies of all the immorality is at the core of much of what is happening, together with technology, which has opened the doors of different societies and cultures mingling together, which can only cause chaos. We are living in a chaotic atmosphere. These lunatics might be under the influence of pharmaceutical drugs which we already know might affect them mentally (drugs for depression, etc.). Blame it on schools, such as yeshivahs not teaching properly and too little of Nach, and public schools teaching immorality, etc. Also, what about mind control? Who knows? Maybe H' is making history repeat itself on fast track. Whatever, the evil is trying to interfere with Moshiach's coming.

 

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