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Thursday, October 22, 2020

The Mabul of Dever - Is it Almost Over?

 

Forged copy of Otzar HaMaharsha

The above image - without the X going through it - was going around my emails and Whatsapp groups a couple weeks ago during Sukkot.  It was later found to be forged, which is why I put an X through it.

However, even though it was forged, it contains an interesting gematria, as we will see later.

We know from many sources in Haza"l (Berachot 7b, for example) that the 2nd chapter of Tehillim talks about Gog Umagog.

א  לָמָּה, רָגְשׁוּ גוֹיִם;    וּלְאֻמִּים, יֶהְגּוּ-רִיק.1 Why are the nations in an uproar? And why do the peoples mutter in vain?

Wait a second.  Nations are in an uproar now during the pandemic.  Peoples are muttering in vain right now during the pandemic.  But למה?  Why did this happen?  How did we get here?  What led up to this point?

ב  יִתְיַצְּבוּ, מַלְכֵי-אֶרֶץ--    וְרוֹזְנִים נוֹסְדוּ-יָחַד:
עַל-יְהוָה,    וְעַל-מְשִׁיחוֹ.
2 The kings of the earth stand up, and the rulers take counsel together, {N}
against the LORD, and against His anointed:

In the last several years, the rulers of the democratic countries of the Western world (Edom - note the vast majority of the countries listed here) have decided to rise up against Hashem and against His Mashiah by approving, endorsing, and encouraging the "marriage" of two people of the same gender.

ג  נְנַתְּקָה, אֶת-מוֹסְרוֹתֵימוֹ;    וְנַשְׁלִיכָה מִמֶּנּוּ עֲבֹתֵימוֹ.3 'Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.'

By doing so, they have broken off any semblance of fealty to Hashem and threw away any connection they had with Him whatsoever.

ד  יוֹשֵׁב בַּשָּׁמַיִם יִשְׂחָק:    אֲדֹנָי, יִלְעַג-לָמוֹ.4 He that sitteth in heaven laugheth, the Lord hath them in derision.

Hashem doesn't take too kindly to this kind of stuff.  Note that the gematria of this verse is 1942 (when using the ם as 600).  In the decade that started 1942 years after the Hurban at the hands of Edom (i.e. the end of 5770 going into the beginning of 5771), things started to get bad with this.

ה  אָז יְדַבֵּר אֵלֵימוֹ בְאַפּוֹ;    וּבַחֲרוֹנוֹ יְבַהֲלֵמוֹ.5 Then will He speak unto them in His wrath, and affright them in His sore displeasure

But Hashem Yitbarach has the attribute of Erech Apayim.  He gave society אז (i.e. 8) years to correct the trend.  But things went from bad to worse.  Such "marriages" became legal in all 50 states during this time while Europe and others were no better.  That took us to the end of 5778 going into the beginning of 5779.  But Hashem had even more mercy and let us finish the year of 5779.

Then came 5780 and boy, did Hashem speak unto us!  We got slammed with קורונה - Corona.  As the forged page points out, קורונה is the same gematria as באפו ובחרונו (in His wrath and in His anger) from this verse.  We could say: Corona יבהלמו - Corona will panic them.  And it did.

Interestingly, Wikipedia notes:
Phylogenic estimates in genetic studies conducted in early 2020 indicate that the SARS-CoV-2 virus likely passed onto humans sometime between 6 October 2019 and 11 December 2019.[4]
which means that this could have started in the very early days of 5780.

Anyways, getting back to the seriousness of the sin, the Mahara"l on Hulin describes writing marriage contracts to males as worse than the act itself, which itself is the worst type of sin with one's body.

Additionally, the Midrash explains that the Generation of the Flood was only wiped out when they wrote marriage contracts to males and animals.

One person who decidedly did NOT get the message is none other than the Avi Avot Hatum'ah himself, the Pope, the spiritual leader of Edom.  He just declared that same gender civil unions are not a problem.  And during Parashat No'ah of the pandemic, no less.  יוֹשֵׁב בַּשָּׁמַיִם יִשְׂחָק indeed.

As Ribbi Yosei says in the Tosefta, although Hashem will no longer bring a Flood of Water upon the earth, He will bring a Flood of Plague in the days of the Mashiah, which most likely means right before the days of the Mashiah.

Based on earlier sources, some might say that the pandemic itself is Gog Umagog, and we know from the Mishna in Eduyot that Gog Umagog will last 12 months - just like the Mabul did.

Thus, if as we said before, it started early 5780, it will BE"H be over early 5781, which could be any day now, followed by the coming of Mashiah.  May this hope come to pass.

18 Comments:

At Thu Oct 22, 03:25:00 AM 2020, Blogger ל.ל. said...

אמן

 
At Thu Oct 22, 03:27:00 AM 2020, Blogger Moshe said...

If I am not mistaken pandemic started around Purim last year

 
At Thu Oct 22, 07:11:00 AM 2020, Blogger yaak said...

Yes, Moshe - that's correct.

But the virus existed in the world in a human sometime between Tishri and Kislev of last year, so it's possible to say that the Mishpat of the pandemic already existed for 12 months.

 
At Thu Oct 22, 09:05:00 AM 2020, Blogger Leah said...

Amen!!!

 
At Thu Oct 22, 12:03:00 PM 2020, Blogger Moshe said...

Yes I hope so too that Hashem will introduce us Mashiah by Zot Hanuka, the last day for wicked people to make their last chance Teshuva according to Arizal.

 
At Thu Oct 22, 06:05:00 PM 2020, Blogger LondonMale said...

The war of Gog U Magog?
There is a tradition that the Vilna Gaon said it will last 12 minutes.
Some say the Chofetz Chaim mentioned a three part war before Mashiach comes - World Wars I and II plus a war around the time period we are now in.
Some say Rav Kaduri called the 2001 war in Afghanistan as the third part of the war of Gog U Magog.
Truly there seem to be more questions than answers when it comes to that war, if indeed, it will even happen?

 
At Thu Oct 22, 07:35:00 PM 2020, Anonymous Anonymous said...

regarding gog umagog i humbly think that nothing that has happened so far is even close to
if you read the prophets yechezkel 38 and 39
zecharia 13 14
yeshaya 11
and prphoecy of ovadia we havent even exprienced anything remotely close to gog umagog
Especially according to Rashi!!!!
if you read rashi on yechezkel 38 you see he holds gog umagog happns after the jews return happily to eretz yisrael
all things said in the name of achronim are at best watered down rumors
if you want to learn an amazing sefer about all the shitot the book galut and geula by harav bentzion mutzafi

 
At Thu Oct 22, 11:48:00 PM 2020, Blogger Moshe said...

LondonMale, it is says in Gemara about Gog uMagog and how long it will last. It is either 9 or 12, but it is not clear if it is seconds, minutes, hours, months or years....

 
At Fri Oct 23, 12:30:00 AM 2020, Blogger yaak said...

In my post, I mentioned the Mishna in Eduyot that says it will last 12 months.

As with all future-based sayings of Haza"l, nothing is set in stone. So the Gr"a can give his timing of 12 minutes, others can say 3 hours, and perhaps there are other times.

Anonymous 7:35 PM,

Yes, there are many reasons to say that Gog Umagog will be a war on the Land of Israel. And there are plenty of sources that support this.

As with every negative prophecy, however, it is not set in stone, and as I noted in the post, there are dissenting views.

Neither you or i or even Rav Mutzafi Shlit"a know exactly what will happen.

So, if we can be "Yotzei Zein" Gog Umagog via the relatively easier path and HKB"H is giving us that opportunity, let's accept it as at least a possibility.

 
At Fri Oct 23, 10:32:00 AM 2020, Blogger Real News said...

Here's a video of Gog Umagog.

 
At Fri Oct 23, 10:41:00 AM 2020, Blogger yaak said...

Yes, I've seen that video. That is a possible scenario of Gog Umagog. Again, nothing is set in stone.

 
At Sat Oct 24, 03:07:00 PM 2020, Blogger Neshama said...

The video of Gog UMagog bears a u t warning. The “tsunami censoring” is everywhere.
I felt that the civil war in Israel of them vs us could be the revised Gog UMagog. There is something paradoxical about Jews fighting Jews.
But, really, how does anyone know what this war will look like? All those techie videos of disaster I find “overkill” imagination.
And, this virus is a lab concoction designed to do great harm, and did not “pass over to humans”. It was made for humans. There is sound precise info on this.

 
At Mon Oct 26, 04:18:00 PM 2020, Anonymous Shalom Gad said...

reb yakov the book i recommended wasnt the ravs own shita but a compilation of all opinions from the rishonim to our time
all prophecies must come true even Yonah hanavis eventually did in the prophecy of Nachum
the war of Gog umagog must bring us all to a total realization of God but the punchline is that all NATIONS must get there too
all recent predictions are iffy at best and taken out of context even the famous shita of the NETZIV is taken out of context if you read his actual perush in complete form
personally halvai this is it but seriously who are we kidding

 
At Mon Oct 26, 11:07:00 PM 2020, Blogger yaak said...

Shalom,

You ask "Who are we kidding", but I believe that an optimistic approach, IMHO, is always appropriate.

When given the choice between the normalcy bias of "whatever happened until now will continue to happen" or "Maybe this is it", I will choose to provide an explanation for אחכה לו בכל יום שיבא every single time.

 
At Tue Oct 27, 10:36:00 AM 2020, Anonymous Shalom Gad said...

agreed,
But one must also be realistic
as the rambam writes in his famous igeret teiman nevua must come first there must be preparation
if after 70 years of galut bavel they needed 3 prophets just to know the dimensions and correct place of the mizbeach what will we say after 1956 years
we need ample proof there have been real more deadly magefot before not some politicized nonsense therefore im not feeling it

 
At Tue Oct 27, 12:27:00 PM 2020, Blogger yaak said...

Shalom, thank you for your comments, but I respectfully disagree.

Realism has no place in being a מחכה for Mashiah. If realism were employed, no one would ever be מחכה for him.

Secondly, there is no such requirement for Nevu'ah to precede Mashiah.

Rather, we know that Mashiah comes suddenly without warning.

Yes, there have been more deadly magefot in years past. But consider the timing of this pandemic both after the Holocaust and after Minha Gedola of the Sixth Millennium, and, in hindsight, this one fits the bill better than the others.

 
At Tue Oct 27, 03:39:00 PM 2020, Anonymous Shalom Gad said...

reb yaak i really enjoy your blog and thoughts but there are countless sources that nevua must preceed mashiach rambam hilchot mlachim is a big one or else there would no way to prove if he is who he says he is
like we had in the past many fakers in the past
jc
shabtai tzvi and more
furthermore there isnt a single gadol who hasconfirmed anything
rathere as the navi malachi says behold i will send eliyahu hanavi and so is paskened in gemara eruvin and the raavad
ofcourse he will come randomly but there are many steps that need to happen
see the chafetzs chaim maamar on geula
and the last geula must resemble the first

 
At Tue Oct 27, 04:36:00 PM 2020, Blogger yaak said...

Shalom,

Yes, I agree that Mashiah himself must prove he's a Navi, but what it seemed you were saying earlier is that we'd have to wait a while to prove that Nevu'ah came back to the world **BEFORE** Mashiah comes. Maybe I misunderstood you, but that's what you seemed to be saying since you were trying to disprove my theory that he could come now.

That's what I disagree with.

There are no preparatory steps that **NEED** to happen before Mashiah comes. There are steps that Haza"l say will happen (like the coming of Eliyahu), but none of those are Ikkarei Emunah and nothing in preparation NEEDS to happen except the coming of Mashiah itself.

For example, we believe that Eliyah will come, but he may come at the same time as Mashiah or even after Mashiah. Yes, I realize that doesn't follow our versions of the gemara in Eiruvin, but it seems to be the Rambam's opinion (see the Hatam Sofer in footnote 4 here).

You mentioned that there is not a single Gadol who confirmed anything. That always was the case and that will always be the case. No Gadol will say anything בוודאות that this is the time. Gedolim will say - and have said - that this is an auspicious time for it to happen. (See my recent post quoting Rav Shternbuch.)

You say that the last Geula must resemble the first, but I would not use the word "must" here. We believe it will, but we really don't know how anything will happen.

Kol tuv.

 

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