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Thursday, October 01, 2009

Sukkot Ge'ula?

Read here and here for some reasons why some have predicted a Sukkot Ge'ula.

The Mishna Berura 663:10 says that we read about Gog Umagog on Shabbat Hol Hamo'ed Sukkot (which doesn't occur this year - maybe because we will experience Gog Umagog instead) since Gog Umagog is destined to occur in Tishri.

May Hashem be מקים לנו את סכת דוד הנופלת.


At Thu Oct 01, 07:51:00 PM 2009, Blogger Neil Harris said...

Ok, those are very cool. Chag Same'ach!

At Sat Oct 03, 09:48:00 PM 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you think it would make a difference if I am in Israel or America. I happen to be flying to America Sunday night?

At Wed Oct 07, 02:07:00 PM 2009, Blogger joshwaxman said...

how many of the predictions in the first link are now shown to be false?



At Wed Oct 07, 02:39:00 PM 2009, Blogger yaak said...

Only 1.
Even if they all were, it doesn't matter.
כשם שקבלתי שכר על הדרישה כך קבלתי שכר על הפרישה

At Wed Oct 07, 03:39:00 PM 2009, Blogger joshwaxman said...

i see the tzunami rabbi's prediction, of a nuclear blast that would shock the world etc., before succot, did not come true. and tuesday, day 4 of sukkot, for him, did not come true. that is one.

the gaza war began Dec 27th, 2008. Add (40*7) days to it to add 40 weeks, since the prediction of 9 months as Rosh Hashanah didn't pan out. That takes us to October 3rd, which was the first take of succot. that is two.

we'll admittedly have to wait another few days for "The Codes of the Frierdiker Rebbe" to be shown to be bunk.

in terms of the gematriot, day 6 of sukkot is tomorrow, so we'll have to see. i jumped the gun on that one by a day, i guess.

the others are too ambiguous to admit a debunking. (and in terms of rabbi kanievsky, i think he was misunderstood, such that the prediction never started).

so two for now, another tomorrow.

are you going to make a post about the Perisha? ;)


At Wed Oct 07, 04:04:00 PM 2009, Blogger yaak said...

1)Why are you so sure of the "bunkness" of these predictions, that you have to say:
we'll admittedly have to wait another few days for "The Codes of the Frierdiker Rebbe" to be shown to be bunk.? Why not hope for the best? Isn't that what being Metzapim Lishu'a is all about?

2)The Tsunami rabbi said Sukkot - not before Sukkot. The "important time" may have passed, but not Sukkot.

3) I've been Poreish in the past. I'm מודה על האמת when it stares me in the face. But before that point, I hope for בשורות טובות.

At Wed Oct 07, 04:16:00 PM 2009, Blogger joshwaxman said...

on count three, true; i am modeh al haEmet. ;)

regarding (1), because of the spurious nature of such proofs. basing oneself not on explicit predictions, but based on weird typography?? has anyone demonstrated that this was not merely the fault of sloppy editing and some guy who did not know how to use QuarkExpress??

similarly, that the deceased grandmother of a student appeared in a dream to that student of the tsunami kabbalist -- who by the way failed to predict the recent tsunami in Samoa -- is not exactly inspiring. and a silly gematria-based prediction?? i would label it bunk well before the time passes.

there is a difference between many of these so-called predictions, and, e.g., a prediction of the Gra based on his deep knowledge of kabbalah and other Jewish sources.

regarding the tsunami rabbi, i seem to recall he said before sukkot first, and only later during sukkot. i'll double-check.


At Wed Oct 07, 06:54:00 PM 2009, Anonymous Shiloh said...

Nobody knows! Only haShem! So we wait.


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