Thursday, October 24, 2013

Recent Earthquake Reasons Given

The ישבעו מטובך newsletter gives a couple reasons for the recent earthquakes.

It prefaces its remarks by saying:
We are not, Heaven forbid, professing to nail in reasons and rationales for the conduct of the Creator for it is closed and hidden and no one knows the Knowledge of Above.  However, our sages have already taught us from the words "בראשית ברא" that Hashem looked in the Torah and created the world, and we only have the words of Ben Amram [Moshe Rabbeinu] and Haza"l for the Shechina was speaking together with them.
It then goes on to say that the gemara in Shabbat 105b (Daf | Text | English) says:
Rab Judah said in Rab's name: He who is slothful to lament a Sage deserves to be buried alive, because it is said, And they buried him in the border of his inheritance in Timnath-serah, which is in the hill country of Ephraim; on the north of the mountain of Gaash:21  this teaches that the mountain raged against them to slay them.22
And even though there were many eulogies for Rav Ovadia Yosef ZT"L, since people were too busy preparing for municipal elections, people didn't eulogize him enough.

And the Yerushalmi Berachot 9:2 (Daf | Yedid Nefesh) says:
Why do earthquakes come? ... The rabbis say they come because of Mahloket [as it says (Zecharia 14:5)] "And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azel; yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah" [and King Uzziah caused Mahloket by wanting to act like the high priest].
And the Aggadat Eliyahu on the Yerushalmi explains:
There are 2 ways to connect earthquakes to Mahloket: 1) Mahloket is the nullification of peace.  The nature of peace is to keep everything where it should be, while Mahloket is the opposite.  Therefore, when there is Mahloket, the world also shakes, and the earth isn't kept where it should be.  2) Mahloket causes separation between people, which is what earthquakes do as Midah Keneged Midah by cracking buildings in half and causing them to fall, Heaven forbid.
And due to the municipal elections, there was terrible Mahloket among even Haredi Jews in Israel, so much so that someone went to the extent of attacking Rav Shteinman Shlit"a [YY - although, from the family's statement mentioned in the previous post, it seems that the attack is unrelated to the elections, but nevertheless, there was terrible Mahloket even without this incident], woe is to the generation that this has occurred in its days.

It then mentions a story:

When the Imrei Emet of Gur visited Yerushalayim, the newspapers were predicting an earthquake, but said that "it should be a small quake and there is no room for fear and trepidation".  The Imrei Emet said, "HKB"H brings earthquakes SO THAT we should fear Him, and you're saying that there is no room for fear?!?!  You could say that danger is not expected, but we definitely need to fear - that is the purpose of the earthquake!  [As it says] 'and God hath so made it, that men should fear before Him.'"

(More about the earthquakes in the next post BE"H BL"N from Rav Fish.)


At Thu Oct 24, 06:02:00 PM 2013, Blogger joshwaxman said...

did they mention plate tectonics?

At Thu Oct 24, 06:40:00 PM 2013, Blogger yair said...

Who made the plate tectonics?

At Thu Oct 24, 08:47:00 PM 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

thanks for another thought provoking input yy.
i would also humbly like to add that there were some orthodox jews in orthodox blogs who were insulting and running down Maran HaGaon , in the comment sections. i was actually stunned. honor and respect is expected to be given to the Maran HaRav from the jewish people. instead the rest of the world sits back and watches them insult and ridicule the tzaddik of this generation. when jews themselves dont respect and honor their own, can one expect anything better from our side of the world?
the comment on quake plates etc is so cynical about their own torah and torah scholars? jews are a very intelligent people, but when there is no humility, when they think they are smarter than Hashem, thats the beginning of downfall, pride, false pride. criticsms and arguments should be made for the sake of Heaven, like hillel and shammai, not to ridicule the torah scholars and make cynical remarks. its very unbecoming. and this is not the kind of cynical light Hashem meant to be as a light to all nations. if we dont understand a statement of a torah scholar, it does not mean he is wrong. it means its not yet time, or not necessary for Hashem to bless us to have that knowledge at the moment.
and nothing can be worse than insulting a person who is no more in this world and not here to defend himself. its cowardly.

At Fri Oct 25, 09:35:00 AM 2013, Blogger joshwaxman said...

ok, i admit it, it was me...



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