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Tuesday, June 01, 2010

Turkey vs. Israel?

Akiva has an interesting post up called The Flotilla and Biblical Prophecy that tells us of a possible confrontation with the Turkish navy and also tells about how this could be fulfilling Yehezkel 38-39.

I had an English teacher in 8th grade (in the mid-80s) who listed the 4 most-powerful militaries in the world at the time:


and the reason given for Turkey is "because they fight like sons of @#!$%es".

I happen to be a Jew of Turkish ancestry. 2 of my 4 grandparents were born in Turkey. I have much Hakarat Hatov to Turkey for the way they took in the Jews from Ferdinand and Isabella's (ימ"ש) Spain and how they've treated Jews relatively well throughout the centuries.

All that goodwill is now going down the drain. And it was hardly sudden - it's been a steady process. The Erdogan-Peres spat, the Ayalon thing which was prompted by an anti-Semitic Turkish TV show - they've all been leading up to this. Relations with Israel is now in the garbage after they recalled their ambassador, and now, they want to have their navy escort another flotilla.

I'm embarrassed and abhorred at the behavior of my grandparents' country toward the country of my ancestral homeland.

And then again, I'm hopeful for the future. No, I don't expect relations to improve, but I'm hopeful for the Geula.

In a previous post, I mentioned how the Talmidei Hagr"a have reportedly said in the Gr"a's name that when Russian ships cross Turkey's Bosporus Strait, we need to start wearing Shabbat clothes (to prepare for Mashiah). However, I also showed there that what may have been assumed to be part of Russia is in fact part of Turkey.

Looking at the various interpretations for who the countries mentioned in Yehezkel 38 are, one can see that pretty much all of them include Turkey or part of Turkey as at least one of the countries that goes against Israel.

I say I'm hopeful because I know the eventual outcome, but I hope and pray that it will be as painless as possible with as much Rahamim as possible.


At Tue Jun 01, 07:35:00 AM 2010, Anonymous Shiloh said...

Too early to tell, but you stress an important point. Turkey and prophecy. See what Turkey's next move is. If they send another ship of terrorists, escorted by their military, it might spark something. As you say, let's hope it's painless.

At Tue Jun 01, 08:23:00 AM 2010, Blogger Joy S said...

Turkey doesn't have the balls. They'll probably use their Rottweiller friend Iran to do their dirty business - but will probably go into high gear now with Egypt, Syria and Hezbollah training their terrorists armies. Turkey is a pussy. Always has been, always will be. So right now - it's wah wah wah. That's for show - meanwhile they're making their dirty deals with the abovementioned.

At Tue Jun 01, 01:06:00 PM 2010, Anonymous MAOZ said...

Speaking of Hakarat Hatov, I remember quite well how Israel sent rescue and medical aid (personnel and materiel) when Turkey suffered 2 massive earthquakes in 1999 (in August and November of that year). Wonder how many Turks still remember and appreciate our rushing to help them in their hour of need? Yeah, rhetorical question.

At Tue Jun 01, 02:53:00 PM 2010, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Highly unlikely but maybe the Turkish Army will remove PM Erdogan and his Islamic cronies.

At Tue Jun 01, 03:17:00 PM 2010, Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least Israel is now seeing Turkey by its true colors. And at least Israel still has its nukes, that is, Israel has not yet handed over its nukes to Obama. So worse comes to worse we can let Turkey have it. An arab is an arab is an arab.

At Wed Jun 02, 10:21:00 AM 2010, Blogger Neshama said...

Yes, yes, I also keep my eye open for this ever since I read about it "Russian ships cross Turkey's Bosporus Strait". Russia does not bend for anyone, but so far they can get away with it.
Someone is working behind the scenes with Turkey to soften their rage.

At Thu Jun 03, 12:41:00 PM 2010, Anonymous Anonymous said...

you calling us as a pussy but all know how murderer and how bitch ur ministers are. You should know that u re nothing without usa dog

At Thu Jun 03, 12:50:00 PM 2010, Blogger yaak said...

I didn't call anyone anything - you must have misinterpreted what I said. Learn to understand and speak English.
Believe me - Israel doesn't need the US. It needs G-d. And when G-d wants us, we all will see what occurs on that glorious day.

At Thu Jun 03, 02:14:00 PM 2010, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'm adressing to spiritualisraelite who say we dont have balls. Also if usa should not support u that so long u can not confide yourself that much. i m not the one who agree fully to erdogans' policts and proponent of coward arabs but israel did not prove that there were guns in ships,beside we attacked on natural sees which they can not.

At Thu Jun 03, 02:17:00 PM 2010, Anonymous Anonymous said...

sorry they attacked on...

At Fri Sep 09, 12:55:00 PM 2011, Blogger unutmazbas said...

ahh sorry guys but Turkey is a member of NATO which doesnt include Israel. If Israel attack to Turkish Navy, NATO must protect Turkey against Israel. The true question is "NATO vs Israel"

At Fri Sep 09, 01:05:00 PM 2011, Blogger yaak said...

Thank you for your comments.

NATO wouldn't dare. But if they do, we all know who will win that war - and it ain't NATO.


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