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Friday, December 16, 2011

A Sudden Mashiah

One of the things Geula-bloggers (including myself) do is follow news events that point to Hashem's plan for the Final Redemption unfolding little-by-little.  There is ample basis for this view - most notably, Shir Hashirim Rabba 6:16.

However, there is another view out there that Mashiah will come suddenly.  Rabbi Reuven Cohen's book entitled "Livyas Chein" on Parshat Vayeshev quotes Rav Yaakov Kamenetzky ZT"L as taking this approach.  He says that it is useless and a waste of time to follow news events to show that Mashiah will be coming soon as there is absolutely no way to predict his arrival.  This is, according to him, because his arrival must be sudden - and an integral part of Mashiah coming is the suddenness of it all.

One example from the Torah that shows its suddenness is the birth of the twin baby boys of Yehuda and Tamar - Peretz and Zerah.  It was known to Yehuda and Tamar beforehand that the one to be born first would be the ancestor of Mashiah.  Zerah stuck his hand out first and at that point, everyone thought that Zerah would be the patriarch from whom the Mashiah would descend.  However, all of a sudden, Peretz came out first and the midwife said, מה פרצת עליך פרץ - as if to say, "How did that happen?"  The birth of the ancestor shows the suddenness of his descendant Mashiah's arrival as well.

Whichever way Mashiah is supposed to come, whether via a process or out of the blue, may he come speedily in our days, Amen.


At Fri Dec 16, 05:30:00 PM 2011, Anonymous Anonymous said...

as talmud says may we be worthy of sitting in the shadow of his donkeys dung .

At Sat Dec 17, 10:40:00 AM 2011, Blogger Neshama said...

Shavua Tov!
Another opinion refers to the Geula as 'birth pangs' which after waiting many months a mother gives birth. During those months the mother feels the growth and activity of life within her. Her friends know more or less when she gives birth. Those not as close find out later, and then there are those who when they hear of the birth are surprised as they did not she was pregnant. So too may it be with the arrival of Moshiach.

At Sat Dec 17, 11:21:00 AM 2011, Anonymous Anonymous said...

it is actually both. it is a long process and no one realizes what is really going on. the suddenness refers to the realization that it has happened already. in other words, the realization is retroactive.... it was under your nose the entire time but you didn't realize it until this second. and this will be in waves. certain people will experience this first, then others and then other after that.

At Sat Dec 17, 09:09:00 PM 2011, Anonymous Anonymous said...

oslo is the gilgul of the golden calf same people in charge erev rav erev zeir 70 nations . the settelers are calev ben yefuney and joshua ben nun mashiach ben yosef and mashiach ben david .

At Tue Dec 20, 03:45:00 PM 2011, Anonymous Anon1 said...

Blogs play an important role in Mashiach's arrival. They keep predicting dates that don't pan out until nobody has any more confidence in predictions. Then Mashiach can come!

At Tue Dec 20, 03:54:00 PM 2011, Blogger yaak said...

Anon1, as self-deprecating as my agreement may be, you may be on to something!

At Wed Dec 21, 11:29:00 AM 2011, Anonymous Anon1 said...

This is the meaning of the hesech hada'as that precedes the great event!


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