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Thursday, March 28, 2013

Interesting Recent Links - Pesah 5773

In case you missed it, see the post before this one: Geula Update from Rav Fish - Pesah 5773

Matzav (originally from Yated USA) - Pesach and the “Enlightened Ashkenazi Elitists” (guaranteed to ruffle some feathers, but I can't argue with a thing he says, and I'm no Kana'i).

Arutz Sheva - Temple Groups Practice Passover Sacrifice and see more videos about this at Life in Israel

YWN - Star-S Pesach Hotline's 10 Most asked Passover Questions from Sephardic Jews

Matzav and Kikar - Rav Chaim Kanievsky Makes a Siyum on Kol Hatorah Kulah - again.

Rav Yaakov Horowitz on Teaching Galut 101 to Children

Dixie Yid guest post - Technology in the Third Beit Hamikdash (cute and shows impressive Beki'ut)

YWN video - Rav Ovadia and his Beit Din Sell Hametz

Jewish Press - Obama to Impersonate Pharaoh at White House Seder


At Thu Mar 28, 08:58:00 PM 2013, Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Seems like the Russian Navy is getting ready to punch its way through the Bosporus if the Syrian rebels with their newfangled heavy weaponry from Saudi Arabia are not just ready to use those weapons against Aleppo but against Tartus, the Russian Mediterranean port. If the Russian Med. port is under siege, the Black Sea Naval exercises will not be confined to the Black Sea.

At Fri Mar 29, 08:32:00 AM 2013, Blogger Devorah Chayah said...

This article says Obama imitates the voice of Pharaoh at each seder.

The man is so clearly a gilgul of Pharaoh and on a soul level -HE KNOWS IT!

At Sat Mar 30, 02:46:00 PM 2013, Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Which Paro? Jim Long, the Noachide, says that the Paro that enslaved us was Pepi II aka. Melol or Meror, which sounds like the bitterness of bondage. He reigned for 94 years both according to Sefer HaYashar and Egyptologists who cover the 6th Dynasty. His son was Adikam, a dwarf who reigned for four years who was replaced by his mother or his wife when the Old Kingdom disintegrated because of the plagues. My biggest problem of course is the dating which places the 6th Dynasty 900 years before the Exodus. It is easier to imagine that the Paro of enslavement was Ramses II. But even Ramses II ruled 100 years after the Exodus. So the mystery remains, "Which Paro" enslaved us, and which one was the Paro of the Exodus? Ramses's son was Merneptah, and would be a good candidate for the Paro of the Exodus, but the inscription of Yisrael on his sarcophagus is a reference to a conquest in Eretz Yisrael, not to a slave revolt. One might lean toward an 18th or 19th Dynasty Paro because of the place names such as the storehouse city of Ramses. But it is a real stumper. The fact that both Pepi II and Melol, according to Sefer HaYashar both ruled for 94 years is convincing, but the Old Kingdom was 900 years earlier.

At Sat Mar 30, 05:18:00 PM 2013, Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

What happened to your quote from Rav Berland's Pesach Seder? A lot of lashon hara is swirling around him right now. I am more interested on what he said at his Seder in Switzerland until anything is proven. The Korean Peninsula is getting really really hot. The North Koreans are of course intertwined with Persia and with Assad in Syria. Will this quickly spread into a World War?

Also look at Shir haShirim 1:5 where it compares the nations of the world that want to split up Yerushalayim to being as black as sin as the nation of Qadar (the verse refers to the tents of Qadar because homes of Yishmaelim are usually compared to tents). Now I believe Qadar is Qatar. And recently Qatar offered to put up billions of dollars to deJudaize the Holy City. Just something I have noticed from studying Shir HaShirim over Shabbat. One interpretation compares our sins to the sins of the tents of Qatar, indicating that we will be saved irregardless of the claims of the Umot HaOlam as being represented by the Qataris. It is worth noting that the Qataris are in charge of PR for the Arab world. Al Jazeera is headquartered there.

At Sat Mar 30, 10:30:00 PM 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

so whar did Rav Berland say on moshiach coming 7 day of pesach??/

At Sat Mar 30, 10:32:00 PM 2013, Anonymous Dov Bar-Leib said...

What happened to your quote from Rav Berland's Pesach Seder?

At Sat Mar 30, 10:34:00 PM 2013, Anonymous Dov Bar-Leib said...

so the 9 months end 7 day of pesach
i ges yeran yaakov to make a post

At Sun Mar 31, 02:12:00 AM 2013, Blogger Devorah Chayah said...

Dov - I'm not up on the line of Pharoahs, but I am familiar with Akhenaten (also known as Amenhotep IV), the one who tried to introduce monotheism to Egypt. I've often thought that this must have occurred do to Yosef HaTzadik's influence. I've speculated that his father Amenhotep III was possibly the Pharaoh who promoted Yosef and his son who later became Akhenaten grew up under Yosef's influence. One source says he "lived at the peak of Egypt's imperial glory. Egypt had never been richer, more powerful, or more secure." It makes sense that Egypt would have reached its "peak" under Yosef's hand. And this idea gives another level of meaning to the description of a subsequent Pharaoh "who knew not Yosef." If you use this assumption and count the years of slavery forward, maybe you could figure out who was Pharaoh at the exodus. (I've been sick for over a a week so I'm really not up to it or I would try.)

At Sun Mar 31, 04:12:00 AM 2013, Blogger Neshama said...

I don't agree with much of the Matzav writeup.
Actually the pot calling the kettle black: from America came the sounds of enlightened Ashkenazi elitists i.e., Boro Park/Willy/Monsey/Monroe. Again they miss the Hesder Panim in events in Eretz Yisrael.

At Sun Mar 31, 07:03:00 AM 2013, Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

The Dov Bar-Leibs without the hot links to my profile are not my comments.

At Mon Apr 01, 05:50:00 PM 2013, Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Ok, the reign of Akhenaten fits nicely, if it had occurred 100 years earlier. We know that the Exodus was in 2448 or 1312 bce. Akhenaten, according to Egyptologists died around 1335 bce. According to the Hagaddah, the exact length of the slavery in Mitzraim was 1/5th of 430 years = 86 years. So for 4/5ths of our "exile" we were not enslaved. The gematriah of Kos is 86. So we have four cups for the 4/5ths of the time that we were not in excruciating pain. So Akhenaten probably reigned between 60- 100 years prior to when Egyptologists said that he reigned, dying 12 years before the beginning of the slavery when the Paro who did not know Yosef took the throne...since that Paro reigned for 94 years according to Sefer HaYashar and his son, the dwarf, reigned for 4 years. This would mean that we were enslaved under the first Paro who did not know Yosef for the last 82 years of his record long rule. Pepi II was a record long ruler. This makes Pepi II an 18th Dynasty Paro and not a 6th Dynasty Paro. Help, Jim Long are you there?

As a scientist, I work with numbers. It would be wonderful if the numbers worked out.

At Mon Apr 01, 06:07:00 PM 2013, Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Jim Long makes another excellent point in his book about the Exodus. He notes that in the Torah, the names of the Paros are not mentioned, but that later on in Tanakh, the names are mentioned in every detail. He points out that at the time of the first 6 Dynasties (the Old Kingdom), the Paros were gods in the minds of the Mitzri'im. By the time the Middle Kingdom came along, the Mitzri'im had grown out of the "My ruler is a god" phase. The Middle Kingdom Paros were not avodot zarot. The Torah makes a point not to mention the names of false gods. So the Old Kingdom Paros are nameless in the Torah. By the time we reach later sefarim in the Tanakh, we can mention the names of the Paros because they are simply Supermen or Giborim in the minds of their subjects. Yet, this still leaves us with the problem of the 900 year discrepancy between the 6th and 18th or 19th Dynasties. Anyway, I will write Jim Long about this again to see if he has any updates.

At Tue Apr 02, 07:51:00 AM 2013, Blogger Devorah Chayah said...

Serendipitously, the Pesach issue of the English Update has an article written by Chana Smith entitled "Who Was Pharaoah at the Time of Our Exodus?" She makes a good case for Akhenaten being the one and that this explains his switch to monotheism. She says King Tut was his son and it provides an explanation for why he died at only 17, being Akhenaten's firstborn. It also fits your timeline. I never considered that, but she makes a very convincing case. If you're interested in having the article, I could mail you a copy.

At Tue Apr 02, 08:40:00 AM 2013, Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Yes, Devash, I am interested. The 18th Dynasty makes much more sense than the 6th Dynasty as being the time of the Exodus. But that would mean that Akhenaten did teshuvah of sorts, in his 5th year when he went semi-monotheistic, and in a later gilgul did full teshuvah as the King of Nineveh. The Pharaoh of the Oppression would have been one of his predecessors. And Obama would likely be the gilgul one of those predecessors who tried to throw all Jewish boys into the Ye'or. And here is Meror, a contemporary of Akhenaten:

Of course then there is the dating and reigns in Sefer HaYashar.

At Tue Apr 02, 09:08:00 AM 2013, Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Ah going back 86 years from the 5th year of Akhenaten, takes us to this Pharaoh: Thutmoshe III. interesting name. He would have been the likely ruler during the decree against the Jewish boys. Yet, there is a dispute about whether this was the time of his reign because of the dating of the Sirius star heliacal cycle, something that Jim Long mentions in his book.

So send me an email.

At Wed Apr 03, 01:27:00 PM 2013, Blogger Neshama said...

Very interesting, thanks.


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