Rav Ovadia Shlit"a: Kippot Serugot are Beloved
Kikar, Ladaat, and Behadrei report that Rav Ovadia Yosef Shlit"a clarified the remarks of Rav Shalom Cohen Shlit"a last week (the following quote is a composite of the quotes mentioned on all 3 sites):
Our Rosh Yeshiva, the Gaon Rav Shalom Cohen spoke a few words against Kippot Serugot. However, I have no doubt that he did not mean all those who wear Kipot Serugot. Does a Kippa testify about a man? Rather, his intent was about certain politicians who left the Source of life and cooperated with enemies of the Torah who made decrees against the Torah.A partial video of this can be seen on Kikar.
"Everyone else are all beloved. I had many Talmidim with Kippot Serugot, who thirstily drank my words. How is it possible not to love my students who are like spiritual children? ואהבת לרעך כמוך - they are all beloved, they are all flawless. I never differentiated between a Kippa Seruga and a black Kippa - this distinction is nothing. When I had strength, I used to give Shiurim in Yeshivot Hesder and they were happy, and I was happy that they were happy.
Also, my son, Ribbi Yitzhak, goes to Yeshivot Hesder from place to place, and they all benefit from him and his Torah. We have to love them and honor them. May it be Hashem's will that He increase for them wisdom, understanding, and knowledge, and they will go up higher and higher.
See also what Rav Amar Shlit"a said last week.
As we approach the upcoming days of judgement, may we all learn to judge our fellow Jews favorably, and treat our Torah scholars with respect.
posted by yaak @ 7/21/2013 12:45:00 AM
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15 Comments:
Glad this was clarified to the public, but thought it was an understood that just those politicians and their followers in Bayit Yehudi were the ones the MK was talking about. By Bennett joining with 'Ain' Atid, he discredited his whole party. It was obviously a ploy to give power to Lapid's religious hating party. All real Jews (religious & secular) are as one, but those who align themselves with the Erev Rav, need to do teshuva and wake up to the reality of what their intentions are. A big yasher koach to HaRav Ovadia Yosef for clarifying it to the mainstream public, who most times love to jump to wrong conclusions when it comes to the chareidim/religious.
those who wear leather kippot, on the other hand...
Sorry still reeling from this, and what about when Shas sided with the expulsion......no.....its ALL the same thing and he spoke about general terms, now he wants to back track. Sorry but i am very very dissappointed, persons of this calibar should never make these kinds of 'mistakes'. I was very hurt by the disdain and chuckles of those present as well as the silence of Rav Obadia which in itself spoke volumes.
Gibbo,
First of all Rav Ovadia and Shas were vehemently AGAINST the expulsion. Please review your history.
Secondly, how many chuckles did you really hear? I watched the video and heard very few.
Rav Ovadia did not need to protest since he knew exactly what Rav Cohen meant. Yes, people who don't hear Hachamim like Rav Cohen all the time and don't know the essence of these Hachamim will not understand their true feelings and may be hurt by their words. Maybe get to know Rav Cohen a little more and you will understand what he meant in the first place.
And it's OK to call the politicians in Bayit Yehudi "Amalek"? Sorry, but I'll never accept that, no matter how much their views might differ.
"First of all Rav Ovadia and Shas were vehemently AGAINST the expulsion. Please review your history."
Your above statement may be true, but Rav Ovadia and Shas knew that if they left the coalition at that time, they would have brought down the gov't and there would be new elections. As a result, the disengagement would have never happened. Shas knew this but did nothing. Shame on them!
Sari,
Those members of BY who insisted on joining anti-Torah forces are very much comparable to Amalek. No need for a retraction there. You don't need to accept it, but a comparison to our arch-enemy whose raison detre is to cool us down and separate us from the Torah is definitely there. Of course, no one wants these people wiped out - just for them to do Teshuva or else, lose their influence.
mg,
Such ignorance here. You also need to review your history. In 2005, Shas was not in the coalition to leave it. If you're referring to 1993, that's a mistake that was apologized for over and over.
And shame on you for thinking you can rebuke the Gadol Hador.
Here are the facts:
"In 2005, then-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon formed Kadima because the majority of the Likud had rebelled against Sharon and his Disengagement. Sharon needed an alternative party to remain in power. He created Kadima and drew on Likud for membership, finding politicians willing to betray Likud’s founding principles of commitment to Eretz Yisrael.
Shas joined Kadima’s government in April 2005. “Shas’s entry into the government,” a National Religious Party member said at the time, “constitutes a de facto kashrut certificate” for the 2005 Disengagement and future plans like it.
Even though Olmert has repeatedly confirmed his willingness to negotiate Jerusalem and create a Palestinian state, Rabbi Yosef continues in his support for the prime minister. He told Olmert the day before the release of the Winograd Report, “Fear not, and do not be dismayed, for I am with you.”"
Read more: http://hadarnews.blogspot.com/2008/02/basta-shas-and-golden-calf-of.html
IMHO, today with the forcing of the Chareidi world to either to perform military or civil service is a middah keneged middah of Shas's refusal to quit the coalition in 2005, which could have prevented the disengagement.
mg, your continuing to bash Rav Ovadia with Motzi Shem Ra will not earn you too many brownie points upstairs. My suggestion: quit while your only somewhat behind.
Here are the real facts. Unfortunately, that article is full of lies.
See the official Knesset website for the 30th government and AMAZINGLY you don't see Shas's name on the list.
Please stop trying to rewrite history by linking to websites with boldface lies in it and posting Motzi Shem Ra around the Internet.
Regarding Mida Kneged Mida, just yesterday, MK Eichler said the EU boycott of Yesh products are Mida Kneged Mida for BY joining YA. Personally, I disagree with both of you, but the hate works both ways, my friend.
To Yaakov,
I stand corrected. But please explain to me why did Shas join the coalition in March of 2006 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_legislative_election,_2006)
knowing full well that the rasha, Olmert, promised to continue Sharon's policy of disengagement from Judea and Samaria??? (the residents of Amona were forcibly removed from their homes and were destroyed while)
I do not hate Shas, especially Rav Ovadia Yosef. (You sound like the blacks in US who call anyone who supports Zimmerman a racist.) But I refuse to keep my head in the sand when I observe lies and sheker occurring within the Chareidi parties.
After the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Zt'l had representatives join the Agudah in 1988, he saw the writing on the wall when Peres wanted to give up the golan for peace. His representatives left the party and the gov't fell. Now, that is what I call leadership.
mg,
Thank you for admitting your mistake, but did you apologize for your words?
I believe an apology is in order to the Gadol Hador.
No, I don't think you are a racist. I just think you have been misguided by media outlets who have hidden animosity against Rav Ovadia and Shas. For example, Arutz Sheva and the Jewish Press are sites I love for the most part - until it comes to covering Shas-related topics. (A7 is only somewhat respectful, but not the comments, while JP goes bonkers in the article itself.)
You extol the Lubavitcher Rebbe's leadership, as you should. However, the Lubavitcher Rebbe B"H doesn't have other considerations, such as loss of money for Torah institutions that would be affected by not joining coalitions. Shas cannot afford to be away from the government too long. They're not in this morally-corrupt government now for policy reasons. However, it's hurting their bottom line, and when real poverty is involved, it's very tough. So, yes, Amona was terrible, but so is losing money for institutions that teach Torah. Knowing when to pull out and when not to - that's true leadership.
I will not apologize because I did not insult the Rav, shlita.
Shas was morally obligated to quit the coalition when Jews were brutally thrown out of their homes in Amona. Shame on the Shas party. It would have been true leadership if they left the coalition, which could have prevented Jewish suffering. I guess money for their yeshivos and kollelim was much more important then pikuach nefesh.
You spread Motzi Shem Ra against the Rav and his party, so an apology is in order.
Please. On a day like today where BY is part of an anti-Torah coalition and passed anti-Torah legislation, you're complaining about Shas?!?!
Yes, money makes the world go around and stop with saying it's piku'ah nefesh. That's hogwash and you know it. The Amona evacuation was terrible, but there was no piku'ah nefesh involved before or after it happened.
Yaakov, how can you be so blind and insensitive to the suffering of fellow Jews? Just like that you just throw the Amona evacuation out the window with absolutely no rachmonus. Also, instead of answering my question you ignore it and instead give me hogwash.
We must not forget that Hashem is orchestrating everything that is happening in EY throuh BY and YA. The Chareidim (which I am a member) must look inwards. Personally, I feel that Hashem is preparing us for Moshiach. I think IMO, Hashem wants us to unite, but if the Chareidim can't accomplish unity (there is a lot of hatred amongst the chareidim towards secular and those you do not agree with them)He has to do it through BY and YA.
Have a Good Shabbos.
mg,
Please explain to me how I've been insensitive to the suffering of fellow Jews. You must not have understood anything I said. I'm very sensitive to what happened in Amona. You think because you are having an argument with me, you can accuse me of insensitivity?!?! Shame on you. Take a look here. Does this look like insensitivity to you?
And I did answer your question, but perhaps, I wasn't clear enough. Shas leaving the coalition would have done absolutely nothing after what happened in Amona. Amona was a one-day evacuation - and a brutal one - but leaving the coalition then would have done nothing useful and would have only hurt Yeshivot.
And I wish you'd understand that your need to apologize to the Gadol Hador for the Motzi Shem Ra you were trying to spread is NOT hogwash. It may just save you a lot of heartache in the next world.
What you said about looking inwards has a lot of merit. What exactly the message is is debatable. However, the message is definitely NOT to disparage Gedolei Hador or the party they're leading.
Shabbat Shalom.
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