What Is the Message of the Doves and Pigs in Rome?
As I linked to in the previous post, the Mashiah Is Coming blog asks what the heavenly message is with the Pope's doves being attacked by other birds after children next to the Pope released them.
My answer is that I really don't know.
However, if I were to venture a guess, I'd say that unlike the common thinking that doves represent "peace", I believe that the doves represent the Jewish people (as per Berachot 53b and Shabbat 49a, 130a). The Vatican has been making strides in the past few decades to put on a facade of loving the Jewish people and being as friendly as possible to us. In fact, the Pope just had a Kosher lunch at the Vatican hotel and relations couldn't be better. This is represented by the freeing of the doves, which, even if unintended, shows the Church's superficial display of Jewish autonomy from our Xtian cousins.
Come along a seagull and a crow and show the Vatican's true intentions for all to see. The white seagull attacking one of the doves perhaps represents the tendency of some Xtians to "love us to death". Intermarriage in the U.S. is now at 58% ל"ע. On the other hand, the black crow represents the traditional anti-Semitism we have endured from Xtians throughout the ages, as the article explains: "But the crow pecked repeatedly at the other dove." The Pope tried to display a message of peace and understanding, but his ruse was uncovered, and quickly. Just as Par'oh was unwilling to let the women and children - and later the animals - leave Egypt, the leader of Edom - despite his facade - is not willing to part with his control over the Jews.
The other incident that just occurred in Rome was the anti-Semitic act of sending pigs' heads to Rome's Great Synagogue, the Israeli Embassy, and a museum holding a Holocaust exhibition. Of course, the fourth beast in Daniel's vision was that of a pig, representing Edom, which is Rome. It is the pig that attempts to show the world how holy it is by spreading out its split hooves, telling the world, "Look at me! I'm Kosher!" At the same time, we know that the second of the two signs of a Kosher domesticated animal - that of chewing its cud - is absent from the pig. Its inside makes it as non-Kosher as a bird-of-prey while it continues to show its "Kosher" side to the world. This is what the Vatican has done since Vatican II.
We are warned to protect ourselves from both kinds of Xtians. As Yaakov Avinu prayed, "הצילני נא מיד אחי מיד עשו - Deliver me, I pray Thee, from the hand of my brother, from the hand of Esau". Whether Esav comes as a brother or as the wicked Esav, we pray that Hashem saves us from all of these encounters.
And a point that should not be lost on anyone reading this is that all this occurred in Rome, the seed of Xtianity.
The BBC article concludes: "It is not clear what happened to the doves that flew away." They're badly bruised, no doubt, but they survived, as the Jewish people always do, thanks to our Protector.
So, it seems that the message of the doves and that of the pigs are one and the same. It is that the mask of Xtianity is slowly being pulled off. When the mask is one day totally removed, the Pope, along with all Xtians will say, as if at the end of an episode of Scooby Doo, "...And I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling Jews!"
As the uncensored Rambam says:
And when that happens, the tables will be turned:וכשיעמוד המלך המשיח באמת, ויצליח וירום ויינשא--מיד הם כולן חוזרין ויודעים ששקר נחלו אבותיהם, ושנביאיהם ואבותיהם הטעוםAnd when the real King Mashiah will arise, and he will be successful and will be lifted and raised up, immediately, they all [Xtians and Muslims] will retract and know that their ancestors inherited falsehood, and that their prophets and ancestors fooled them.
The dove will overpower the sparrow-hawk, as in King Solomon's throne, and the pig, which represents the Kelipa of Edom, will be permissible to be eaten, thereby leading to the destruction of its Kelipa.
At that time, we will merit to see the verse fulfilled:
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The Pope is planning a visit to Israel in May. Recently, Kerry went to visit the Pope to discuss the situation in the Middle East. The Pope told of his support for the Palestinians and his support for a two state solution. As I recently posted in Measure for Measure, 12 Jan 2014, every time someone says something detrimental about Israel or the Jews, Hashem sends a message. The Pope got his message even though he probably doesn't know it. He doesn't necessarily follow Hashem. Read Ovadiah to see what is in store for Edom.
Very nice interpretation, and a fine prediction of the unfolding geulah! Yashar koach!
Excellent!
amalak is rome
Shlomo Wrote: Yes, a very nice interpretation or rather insight.
BUT! I have to ask: What good are all these signs from Hashem, the winters in America, etc, etc, if the goyim don't get it? They don't even see it right in front of their faces! At least with the plaques in Egypt, they saw it, they made THE connection! So I don't get it. I really don't. It seems like nobody gets anything anymore! If it wouldn't be for these 'sites' I go to, to see that there ARE those that think like me, that see it, I would of completely lost my mind already. My father A.H. that was in Auschwitz told me once, "Shlomo,if Moshiach didn't come for me, if he didn't come for us then, what makes you think he's coming foryou"!? I've thought about this for 30 odd years since he said it to me. And I got to tell ya, I believe Hashem is really mad at us. Really ticked. And has been for 2000 years. BH, keep up the good work and believe me when I tell you that your contributing to peoples sanity. P'Shot.
Yaak you have the best geulah blog
Great as always.
We could add a pig's face to your masthead between the hawk and the dove and ghost it back - way back ??? Actually, maybe not, I don't want to see a pig's face when I click on your blog, it would be like seeing a stamp of trafe-unkosher!
Today is 27th of Sh'vat, 5774.
By this calendar it is at least 225 years before the sabbath ( millennium messianic era ) year 6000.
Expectation of Elijah I can understand from scripture but-
Why are Jews expecting the messiah now and even long before now ?
What is the tanakh basis for the Sabbath anyway ?
of course there is that 200 or so year 'error' in the calendar that Chazal introduced in the times of the Greeks.....
BTW I don't like your image of the doves as the Jews. I think it is a very very bad omen for the church. And I think they know that, that is the reason it is getting so much attention.
These are signs m'Shamayim of what Edom (Eisav) has in store for Yisrael,(warnings)as to the plans of Eisav, etal. But, H' will turn the tables on them. To Shlomo: These signs are not for the umot, they are for the Jews; everything under the sun are signs for Yehudim to do teshuva and warnings for us to return and remember who we are. To Anonymous who says there are over 200 odd years to 6000; please start reading the blogs, at least, such as this one and the Days of Awe of Dov Bar Leib who give detailed verses from the Torah about the geulah and we are, surely, in that era, and it does not have to reach the 6000 mark! Where do you get that from? Also, go to the GR'A's Kol Hator and you will get some insight; he spells it out. Jews are the ones holding up the geulah by not wanting to see what's in front of their eyes. In the meantime, Eisav,Yishmael,Erev Rav are doing their darndest to make the jews disappear. They're all in on it. The holocaust of assimilation (G-Dlessness) has done more damage than anything and now the amaleikim are working hard to take out 'religion' from the dictionary, starting from Edom itself. Hamavin yavin.
Hoshea describes Mourning doves.
Crows are less coordinated than ravens.
The Seagull evokes England's Barbaric Medieval Past.
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Very nice, love the scooby doo reference!
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