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Sunday, November 01, 2015

Geula Update from Rav Fish - Vayera 5776

From Rav Fish's latest:

(if nothing else, read the 2 bullet points in red below)
  • Har Nof Massacre
  • Tehiyat Hameitim in 408 x 2
    • The Zohar Toledot 139b says that Tehiyat Hameitim will occur in 5408 based on calling the dead "בני חת".  However, the Zohar mentions the word חת twice in a row, so perhaps (even though the year 5408 is clearly mentioned), it is hinting to us that we need to double the word חת to get the real year of Tehiyat Hameitim - namely 5816. And the Zohar says that 40 years prior to that time, the troubles will have passed.  That brings us to 5776.
      • R' Shimshon of Ostropoli ZY"A connected this Zohar to the 408 lights on the forehead of Mashiah ben David and added that it stems from the large ח and large ת "and I cannot expand this due to the danger", he said.  He knew that the ת"ח was large - i.e. that it was doubled.  And indeed there was a danger in the year 5408 (during the Khmelnytsky massacre) in which he was murdered Al Kiddush Hashem.
      • The Shach at the end of his "Megilla Afa" also hints to this year of Tehiyat Hameitim by saying that it is hinted to in the verse בזאת יבא אהרן אל הקדש, i.e. that in the year זאת, there will be Tehiyat Hameitim and Aharon will once again come to the Kodesh.  According to what we said, it could mean ב - i.e. 2x זאת - coming to 5816.
      • Later, the Zohar brings down the opinions of Ribbi Yehuda and Ribbi Yitzhak who say that the Tehiyat Hameitim will occur at the very latest in 5790 and 5786 respectively.  It later mentions the opinion of Ribbi Yose, who says that there will be many resurrections and all the resurrections will occur at that time.  It would be illogical to say that these rabbis are disagreeing with the first opinion over so many hundreds of years (if it would mean 5408), but over a much shorter period.
      • The Emek Hamelech also talks about the year 5408 and uses another verse מלחמה לה' בעמלק מדר דר - the words דר דר are the gematria of 408.  Perhaps, the word בעמלק tells us that there will be 2 wars against Amalek of 408 years each.
      • 408 is also the gematria of חבלי משיח.
        • In the book Ateret Yeshua, the author notes that he had a dream that he saw this gematria.  Khmelnytsky is חמי"ל in Hebrew, which stands for חבלי משיח יוצלו לרוחה, as in the song.
      • The Hatam Sofer mentions the idea of 5408 and says it Haman's decree was actually fulfilled then.  He adds that the verse וְקוֹץ וְדַרְדַּר, תַּצְמִיחַ לָךְ hints that from the generation [דור] of Haman [who is compared to a קוץ] until the generation of 5408, the decree will be kept - and דרדר is the gematria of 408.  
        • According to what we're saying that there are 2x408, we can say that the decree of another Persian king is a continuation of Haman's decree.
        • R' Reuven Frankel adds that Khmelnytsky is similar to the name Khamenei.
        • We can hint from the verse ודור רביעי ישובו הנה that we need to calculate דר four times.
      • משיח is hinted by 2 Tzaddikim who died in 5408 -  ר' שמשון of Ostropoli and ר' יחיאל of Nimrov.
      • [He mentions much more about this.  ע"ש]
  • Al Aqsa Intifada
    • [As mentioned 4 years ago:] And I also heard that the verse in Daniel 9:27 is written in the plural of שִׁקּוּצִים מְשֹׁמֵם [detestable things shall be that which causeth appalment] to hint the 2 detestable things that exist on the place of the Mikdash. And also שיקוצים [detestable things] in gematria is אל אקצא ועומאר [Al-Aqsa and Omar].
    • אל אקצא plus the Kollel equals 224, which is the number of years from 5776 until 6000.
      • This is why it's called the Al Aqsa Intifada to hint that this year will be their end.
    • It is brought down in the name of Rav Yosef Schwartz ZT"L - the Saba of Netanya - that Gog Umagog will start when the Arabs will run wild with knives in the streets.
    • Similarly, it's brought down in the name of Rav Asher Freund ZT"L that he said in 5736 that in 40 years, there will be fear of going into the street.
    • This intifada is hinted to by the gemara Bechorot 8a (Daf | Text | English [pdf p. 30]):
      [Caesar asked Ribbi Yehoshua ben Hananya:]   ‘A bed of knives, wherewith can we cut it’? ‘With the horns of an ass’. They asked: ‘But has an ass horns’? ‘And is there a bed of knives’? 
      • The Maharsha explains that the donkey refers to Mashiah, who rides on a donkey and the knives symbolize barriers to reach perfection.  Mashiah will remove these barriers.
      • The Afikei Yam on Aggadot [by Rav Yitzhak Isaac Chaver] explains that the bed of knives symbolizes Esav and Yishmael and the donkey refers to the MBD while the horns come from an ox, referring to MBY, and together they will cut off Esav and Yishmael.
        • In his book Si'ah Yitzhak, he explains it similarly.


At Sun Nov 01, 04:26:00 AM 2015, Blogger Devorah Chayah said...

Thanks so much for bringing that.

At Sun Nov 01, 08:47:00 AM 2015, Blogger HDG, Yerushalayim, E"Y Shlemah said...

May the words of the Maharsha and the Afikei Yam come quickly!

Thank you for this post.

At Sun Nov 01, 11:53:00 AM 2015, Blogger Neshama said...

This was revealing in our current matzav.
With regard to bed of knives, the Indians (from India) actually have something that could be called a bed of knives, upon which they lie. I can't relate that to the first part of caesar's words.
The Saba of Netanya's description of when gogumagog begins correlates to Rosh Hashana when it was also foretold about the Russians entering Syria that it would begin. And didn't the boy who died and came back also mention a date just prior to R"H?

Plus, I believe that Rabbi Winston indicated that Tehiyat Hameitim had to begin by a certain date prior to the yr 6000. I don't remember the rest.

At Sun Nov 01, 12:50:00 PM 2015, Anonymous Anonymous said...

the Rebbe’s strong assertion that the Redemption will
occur instantly: “the codifiers of Jewish law have already acknowledged that the
true and complete Redemption via Moshiach Tzidkeinu needs to be in-
stantaneous (דימו ףקת), and it will indeed occur that way in actuality...the
beginning of the Redemption and its completion come immediately,
‘without the delay of the blink of an eye’.”17 According to the Rebbe there
is no truth to the popular misconception that the Geulah is a gradually
unfolding process, because “Those who say that the Geulah of Israel will
come in a natural way and slowly...they are hiding from the reality and
also the past…that in the blink of an eye the army of Hashem went out
from Egypt...carried on wings of this way will come the transformation of the entire Creation…”22 ... nds-still/ p.11

At Sun Nov 01, 02:20:00 PM 2015, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very interesting. But the part of 5816 being the date for Techiyat Hameisim doesn't make sense. It does make sense for 5786-5790. May it be! As Neshama pointed out, there is a timeline when this should occur and this fits in with the 5786 date. There are so many interpretations that it makes everything confusing; only H' knows! It will all happen in a blink of an eye in its appointed date that H' deems it to be.

At Sun Nov 01, 06:22:00 PM 2015, Blogger LondonMale said...

@Anonymous of 12:50PM

There is no conflict between the Rebbe's assertion that Geulah would be instant, and those who observe a Geulah process.
The Geulah process is part of the build up, to where a set of circumstances in the world mean life is hard for the Jews in terms of threats from our enemies pushing us towards Hashem.
To make us pray to Hashem for redemption.
To mean the pieces of the redemption jigsaw are falling into place.
The world can be said to be in quite a state right now - with Iranian nuclear threat, the Middle East ISIS War, the new "knife" Intifada, economic woes and environmental woes.
Then as Rav Dov Bar Leib has pointed out, there are now over six million Jews in Israel...perhaps Gilgulim of the victims of the Shoah having undergone a spiritual cleansing?
To this can be added a story of the Rebbe. I read this somewhere.
A group of his students waited outside his door for an audience with him.
Suddenly he opened the door and stepped out of his room.
He had no made loud footsteps towards the door, he had been very quiet so it was a shock to them.
They were very surprised and this showed on their faces.
He explained, "You were not expecting that, and I did this to show you how Moshiach will come, suddenly."
In practical terms this can mean that Mashiach will come at any moment, and that the way he appears and is revealed can be very fast, literally taking one second.

At Wed Nov 25, 01:42:00 AM 2015, Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Whoa! Devorah in Sydney just linked to this post PREDICTING that the 32 day count to WW3 ending on the 13th of Kislev actually began with the petirah of Rav Chaim Yechiel Rothman zt"l on the 11th of Cheshvan and not the petirah of the the righteous Druze police officer as was originally interpreted back at the time of the Har Nof Massacre. The downing of the Russian fighter jet was ON THE 13th OF KISLEV. I think that that prediction has just come true and deserves a comment right here in the original post! It is not often that we Geulah bloggers make a prediction for a specific date and then watch it come true.

At Wed Nov 25, 02:53:00 PM 2015, Blogger yaak said...

There is another idea Rav Fish mentioned in another post that the Zohar's mention of the destroyed synagogue really referred to the Poile Zedek Synagogue in New Brunswick that was destroyed by a fire on the Friday before R' Rothman passed away. If we count from that Friday, then we get to the 12th of Kislev, which is the day of the Turkish airstrike on the Russian plane.

Alternatively, if we want to say it came from the Shabbat of R' Rothman's petira, 32 days includes both the first and last days (as we often use to count certain halachic time periods).

In either case, the 32 days should fall out on the 12th of Kislev - not the 13th.


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