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Wednesday, April 05, 2006 Recap

This is a recap of from the past week or so:

  • #1: Rav Binayahu Shmueli describes the punishment for those who hate the Jewish people in the time of the Geula. Video

  • #2: The Kaliver Rebbe did something only done once in the past 23 years - i.e., he opened up the Aron Kodesh and said Tehillim and Keriat Shema. Video

  • #3: Rav Daniel Zer quotes the book "Yalkut Moshe" (written hundreds of years ago) which says that when a solar eclipse happens on Erev Rosh Hodesh Nissan, 4 things will happen:
    • Damage in the kings of the East (Iran via the Americans)
    • Animals will die (bird flu)
    • Rulers will fall, the mighty ones will fall
    • A stormy strong wind will come
  • Video

  • #4: A tornado hit the Galil. This may explain the fourth item above from "Yalkut Moshe", the Gemara in Sanhedrin that says הגליל יחרב, and the Zohar that says "In 66, the King Mashiah('s spiritual light) will appear in the Galil." Video of the tornado


At Wed Apr 05, 01:52:00 PM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about 1)the sun will shine
2)some animals will die on that day and some won't
3)some people will die on that day (and the next, and the next) and, yes, most won't
4)some people will have Captain Crunch for breakfast and some will have Cheerios
5)it will rain in an unnamed country in that day and in a different one on the next.

At Wed Apr 05, 03:03:00 PM 2006, Blogger yaak said...

haha, very funny.
So don't take it seriously. No one's forcing you to.

I do.

At Wed Apr 05, 03:21:00 PM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What does "Hapesi yaamin l'chol davar" mean to you? Not that I'm calling you a pesi, but you get my drift.

At Wed Apr 05, 04:14:00 PM 2006, Blogger Yaakov Nathan said...

Headlines everywhere read "freak weather" etc. The hester is only as thick as you make it. Yashar koach, Yak.

At Wed Apr 05, 04:36:00 PM 2006, Blogger yaak said...

You can call me a pesi if you want.
Shomer Pesa'im Hashem.

I don't believe everything. I'm Choshesh for everything that comes from a tzaddik or Yerei Shamayim, and I therefore report those things.

R' Yaakov, you are so very right.

At Thu Apr 06, 07:16:00 AM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice, but who will address the real issue?

We got in this trouble via Oslo, with Ovadia Yosef.

We got into great trouble via the disengagement, with the Gerrer Rebbe and Yosef Shalom Elyashiv.

And again, the cards are in "our" hands. The Divine Hand is visible. It is a Test. Perhaps at long last "we" did Teshuva? Perhaps, sof sof, there will be protest against the "gedolim"?

It does not seem like "we" did Teshuva. At this very hour, the Haredi parties are showing again, again, again, their venomous hatred for the "settlers," the truly faithful.

Who dares to say the truth?

Rav Shmueli?
The Kaliver Rebbe?
Rav Daniel Zer?

At Thu Apr 06, 11:53:00 AM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give me a break. Every country has incidences of 'freak weather'. It's unbelievable that every time it happens, some people think it's a harbringer of something.

At Thu Apr 06, 12:04:00 PM 2006, Blogger yaak said...

Anonymous, as much as I love the settlers, who ARE truly faithful, I ask you to understand that Hareidim and the Dati Le'umi are on the same side. We all ultimately want the Ge'ula - the 2 sides just have different methods of how.
What I do know is that berating Hareidim with venom is not a method that will work Lechulei Alma.

Aaron, it's always a harbinger of something - it's not always clear to us mortals what that is.

At Thu Apr 06, 02:18:00 PM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hamevazeh Talmedei Chachmim-ein lo chelek L'Olam Haba.
Be careful when you talk.

At Fri Apr 07, 12:04:00 AM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aaron, Yaak, WAKE UP. there is a halachic and holy obligation to protest! These are NOT gedolim, not OUR gedolim. They are CORRUPT. Their TORAH is corrupt. We do NOT agree. We must scream it out, lest the ONESH, which is sure to come, will start with US.

At Fri Apr 07, 02:29:00 AM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Corrupt are only those who talk like you on Gedoley Dor. And only people with this kind of talk have brought to the destruction of Gush Katif and North Shomron.

There seem to be nobody who hates Chareidim and their leaders more than a few people with Kipa Sruga that don't listen even to their own rabbis.

Mafdal/Ichud made a pact with Shinuy against the Torah and against the Chareidim and against their Rabbis (both Rav Shapira and Rav Eliyahu were against this dangerous move). But the truth must be dealt with once and for all: some people in the Kipa Sruga camp hate Chareidim more than all of Shniuy's Tinokot.

These are the same people that listend to no rabbi, and voted to Marzel's party, and wasted around a seat in the Knesset for Arabs. These are people who have no Daat Torah whatsoever, they are the rabbis of themselves. If a rabbi say what they like - they go with him, if not - they go against him.

And at the end they blame the Chareidim...

What those kind of people (again, I don't generalize the whole Kipot Srugot public) did in the last Sharon government to the Chareidim and to the Yeshivas was far worse than what Sharon did to Gush Katif and North Shomron, though I personally cry on both matters.

B4 starting the slogan "Yehudi Lo Megaresh Yehudi" you should've learned the slogan "Yehudi Lo Hores Yeshivot".

Where were you when Yeshivas and Kollels were shut by Mafdal? Where were you when Mafdal went to the high court to stop funds to Yeshivas? Where were you when thousands of Avreichim were sent to street?

And how dare you talk in desrespect about Gedolim, when you yourself don't respect your own Gedolim, unless they say what you want to hear.

Shame on you!

At Fri Apr 07, 02:40:00 AM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your "gedolim" support the give away of Eretz Yisrael for money, uhh, sorry, Pikuach Nefesh. Their shita for bringing the geula consists l'maaseh of human sacrifices. Did you hear any of them account for the victims of the Oslo war? How will they account for the millions that might C"V die as a consequence of their support for Olmert? How will YOU (another anonymous) account for YOUR venom against the "settlers"?

I am not ashamed. I am proud to stand for the truth. You stand ashamed WITH your "gedolim".

At Fri Apr 07, 03:49:00 AM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

A few observations and reflections.

This is not the first time we see this discussion. A says that the policies of the Haredim are motivated by hatred. B counters with "where were you when the kollels were closed?"

In other words, B ackowledges that A is right, proving it by attacking him.

Something to think about.

The closing of a Kollel in Bnei Barak can easily be undone. And honestly, how many stopped studying Torah because of the closing of Kollels?

I know many Kollel students in Israel, and every single one of them is still studying. Some have a job also, and are happy with that.

Also in Gush Katif, kollels were closed, and that cannot be undone.

And how come we seem to be so certain that the highest form of Torah learning is in a Kollel? For one, the Rambam does not agree, excepting individual cases. The GR"A would emphasize the study of the seven Chachmot. Are we doing that in Kollel? How then can we be so sure of ourselves?

The expulsion of the Jews of Gaza destoyed a complete Torah society with a blossoming economy and with fantastic Yeshivos, Kollels, Batei Knesset. They combined the study and practice of Chachmot and a life of Torah in a unique way. This is lost now, for the time being. This is incomparable to what was done to the Kollels.

Think, before we make the same errors again. What was written above is true. This obviously is the Hand of HaShem. Time and again, fateful policies of the State of Israel are in the hands of the Haredi parties. Time and again, they fail. And then get another chance. Another test. Every test can be the final one.

Think, people. Is A indeed right? Do we hate these people? Why? Because they combine Torah with other achievements? Like science, like high-tech, like the army, like physically building the Land, like being shepherds, farmers. Do we hate them because they are more genuine, closer to the Avos? Or because they are closer to our great teachers, such as the GR"A, who so emphatically spoke about the importance of every stone, every wall, every building, every neighbourhood. About the critical importance of studying the Chachmot. And yes, also about fighting the Arab enemey. Physically, not only by learning in Kollel. The land must be inherited with Hazaka [b]v'Hozkah[/b]. That was the call of the hour. Already in his hour. And we are still not listening. Rather, we are fighting those who are listening.

And then, the obvious. Oslo gave us many victims. Indeed, where is the Heshbon Nephesh. Hamas and El Queida have take over Gaza. What will that bring? Where is the Heshbon Nephesh?

We have a huge problem in the Haredi society. We are busy only with ourselves. We have parties to take money from the state. We have no vision. We refuse to carry responsibility for anything outside our community.

At Fri Apr 07, 05:25:00 AM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I rest my case.

At Fri Apr 07, 09:39:00 AM 2006, Blogger yaak said...

Causing a loss of Torah learning and a loss of part of Eretz Yisrael are equally terrible. I hope we can all agree on that.

Mistakes were made on both sides. Let's move on.

Let's stop the bickering of "My Gedolim are better than your Gedolim", and let's stop dwelling on our past differences.

Let's try to make Shalom for our future. The Ge'ula depends on it.

At Fri Apr 07, 09:52:00 AM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous, I stand by my statement. You have to do a real cheshbon hanefesh when you speak about Talmedei Chachomim in that manner. And I would protest if some shnook spoke about Rav Kook like you speak about other Gedolim. You can disagree respectfully also, you know. You are talking like Korach, Dasan and Aviram against Moshe Rabbeinu in the midbar. And I'm sure you're thinking it's all leshem shamayim.

At Sun Apr 09, 03:54:00 AM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It takes guts to say the truth.

At Mon Apr 10, 11:31:00 AM 2006, Blogger yaak said...

I'm sure if you, the author of that article, and everyone like you would spend more time doing positive things with your time rather than putting down Rav Ovadia every chance you have, we would have a fighting chance to have Mashiah come already and Oslo will just be a fleeting memory.

Remember, Ahdut is the key.

At Mon Apr 10, 04:34:00 PM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are wrong! It is obvious. Shas is tested here, and it is not looking good:

No, Olmert needs Shas, and he knows it; A7 points it out neatly.

You, as a promotor of Shas, have an obligation. Call everybody you know in Israel. Do what you can.

Please G-d, let them do Teshuva. THAT will bring Moshiach. United we will stand. but only around the TRUTH.

At Tue Apr 11, 11:34:00 AM 2006, Blogger yaak said...

I am not wrong, and nothing is obvious.
I have no problem with Shas joining the government, as long as they get out before any further Hitnatkut (or Hitkansut, whatever, same thing) takes place.
At that time, I will do what I can to stop it.

Thank you for posting without denegrating any Gedolei Yisrael.

I hereby apologize if you felt that I was disrespectful to you in earlier comments. I felt that I needed to protect the honor of the Gedolim.

At Tue Apr 11, 01:31:00 PM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your words are accepted with a warm heart. Apologies are not needed at all.

I found you by divine decree, and now it is my task you bother you. Please forgive me. I do not intend to hurt, though I do intend to convert. With the help of G-d.

Know that the truth is the only thing I care for. People can tell me whatever they want. I do not hold it against them for a second.

I have a very sharp intuition. I know you are a very chashuve Jew. This is why I visit your blog.

I of course do not agree that I denigrate Gedolei Yisrael. How can I say that, you ask? Here is how I measure what is a gadol.

A true gadol is not one who is followed by the masses, not someone whose piskei halacha are followed by many at a certain time. He does not strive for followers. He has no pride. A true gadol is who speaks the truth, who suffers for his people. He has Siata D'Shamaya such that only blessings derive from his actions. Only blessings... HaMevin Yavin.

Pesach Sameach v'Kasher.

At Tue Apr 11, 04:26:00 PM 2006, Blogger yaak said...

I am not about to question your intuition, but I'm really just a simple Jew.

Whether or not you consider the Rav in question a Gadol, you should at least admit that he is a Talmid Hacham, which should preclude him from being denigrated.

Hag Kasher VeSame'ah to you and your family.

At Tue Apr 11, 10:57:00 PM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

He is a Talmid Chacham in issues of Basar v'Chalav, in the Dalet Amos, you know what I mean. But he came out of the Dalet Amos and is now endangering Klal Yisrael. It is an issue of Pikuach Nefesh. He is now about to enable an enormous Rasha, who has only one point on his agenda, and everybody knows it. By the way, your strategy is obviously wrong. Olmert will rely on Arab support in case Shas will leave. In effect, Shas is helping him out with the one thing he cannot yet do: make a government with the Arab parties.

We must all do what we can to prevent this. Call your Shas friends. Let them call Yishai. We cannot simply trust the judgement of Ovadia Yosef. That is not putting him down, Yaak. That is an extrapolation from the past, for which he did no Teshuva.

At Wed Apr 12, 09:13:00 AM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

He is right!

At Mon Apr 24, 11:15:00 AM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

See the comments.

At Fri Apr 28, 05:43:00 AM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are about to fail, and all supporters are silent. Also you. HaShem Yerachem.

At Fri Apr 28, 06:42:00 AM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please read the comments.

At Sun Apr 30, 02:03:00 PM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Call Shas now. It is your holy obligation: +972 545699079

At Sun Apr 30, 09:25:00 PM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seems too late now:

The sword of Divine Punishment hangs over their necks, and they do not see. He is proud. Indeed, pride is his problem.

At Mon May 01, 03:00:00 AM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's done.

At Mon May 01, 01:43:00 PM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why did Shas join? They really do not understand? No, they really do not understand. Rav Ovadia did not do Teshuva for Oslo. That is why. He wants to prove it was not a mistake after all. Only the blind do not see. Many are blind. HaShem Yerachem Aleinu.

At Tue May 02, 12:02:00 AM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How true.

At Thu May 04, 05:44:00 AM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

He then terminated the conversation... because they know they are guilty. Do you know it also?

At Fri May 05, 09:27:00 AM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shas approved Olmert's horrendous speech. It has now been establshed beyond doubt: Shas is not different from Olmert. All are evil. Their evil is what joined them, and it will destroy them.

At Fri May 05, 10:27:00 AM 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, back to the issue. Who, which of your favorite Rabbanim is speaking out against the Chillul HaShem?

At Sun May 07, 03:37:00 AM 2006, Blogger yaak said...

I'm allowing you to have free reign in this comments section.

Let's just leave it as you're wrong and I'm right. :)

Shas joining the government is not a Hillul Hashem. It's a necessary step to gain the funds necessary to fund institutions that are important for the physical and religious continuity of Kelal Yisrael. I'm sorry you don't see it that way.

As much as I love Arutz Sheva (I really do), I don't agree with everything they write - only 95%.

This happens to be part of the 5% disagreement. I suspect it's the same with you and me.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to shut down comments for this post. Feel free to create your own blog where you can get a wider audience, and an identity.


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