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Friday, June 10, 2005

Ledavid.com Issues Disclaimer

Ledavid.com today issued a disclaimer regarding predictions of Ge'ula. The disclaimer (summarized) makes a distinction between statements by Gedolei Yisrael and those which are not. The statements made by Gedolim should be accepted "with a lot less doubt", while those emanating from other sources should not be believed as Torah MiSinai, although can have some truth in them. These types of predictions can help a person fulfil the Mitzvah of expecting redemption. However, there are those whose faith may be shattered by believing one of these predictions and expecting something to happen, and it doesn't. This is why he is issuing this disclaimer to let people know to take all predictions not coming from Gedolim with limited belief.

Let me echo everything said there.

7 Comments:

At Fri Jun 10, 01:58:00 AM 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This whole internet kerfuffle over who can have the best and closest predictions of when moshiach is coming has gotten way out of hand. If people put HALF the effort into learning Torah and mitvos bein adam le chavaro that they do into this type of thing, the Moshiach would have been here a long time ago!

 
At Fri Jun 10, 01:58:00 AM 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This whole internet kerfuffle over who can have the best and closest predictions of when moshiach is coming has gotten way out of hand. If people put HALF the effort into learning Torah and mitvos bein adam le chavaro that they do into this type of thing, the Moshiach would have been here a long time ago!

 
At Fri Jun 10, 09:42:00 AM 2005, Blogger yaak said...

Anonymous,

You're right - mostly. However, if "this type of thing" inspires people to do more Torah and Mitzvot (which is of course the goal), then it may be worth it.

For me personally, I'm still not sure if it's my Yetzer Hara or my Yetzer Hatov that keeps me fascinated with it.

 
At Wed Jun 15, 04:20:00 AM 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are obviously prophecies about the end of times, and there is of course nothing wrong with contemplating them. That is what Daniel did himself. That is what many of the Gedolim did, even in writing: Rambam, Ramban, the Vilna Gaon, ...

The biggest problem with the predictions of the imminent coming of Moshiach is that they are obviously wrong. It is a hype. History will follow the Seder HaTefila as Chazal explain in the Talmud (Megilla).

Obviously, we live in the age of Moshiach. Obviously, we can expect wondrous events soon. But whatever will transpire, it will not be the coming of Moshiach.

 
At Wed Jun 15, 10:01:00 AM 2005, Blogger yaak said...

>The biggest problem with the predictions of the imminent coming of Moshiach is that they are obviously wrong. It is a hype. History will follow the Seder HaTefila as Chazal explain in the Talmud (Megilla).

I don't know if one can say this with certainty. There are so many opinions on what will transpire that the only thing that's certain is that we really don't know.

If you are so sure that Mashiah won't come right away, what does "Ahakeh Lo Bechol Yom Sheyavo" mean? I'll wait for the signs before Mashiah??? That is very Dohek.

 
At Thu Jun 16, 08:53:00 AM 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yaak,

Is there any way to get the moderators of Ledavid.com to have a hebrew to english translator on there site?

 
At Thu Jun 16, 09:17:00 AM 2005, Blogger yaak said...

>Is there any way to get the moderators of Ledavid.com to have a hebrew to english translator on there site?

Highly unlikely. Since it is a forum where anyone can post anything, it would be extremely difficult to translate the site. Perhaps to have someone translate the "big news items" would be a possibility.
Or, I can do my best here if someone asks for it.

 

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